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people's warExplanation Showing 701 to 720 of 1003 First Page•Previous Page 32 •33 •34 •35 •36 •37 •38 •39 •40 Next Page•Last PageCHAIRPERSON: Good morning everybody. Today we are going to hear the applications for amnesty of the following people, T Mutle, P Mfusa, N F Ranoto, Nkuna and S P Blose. The next problem was what were they going to do with the body. They dowsed it with petrol and set the corpse alight. They did not want it to be known that they had committed a crime. They went back to the place where Mamasela was being held by other comrades. They decided that they were not ... The applicant stated that he murdered the deceased because he received an instruction from the leader of the Orde van die Dood to kill a person. This would prove that he had the ability to kill and that he would therefore be an effective member of the Orde. The killing of the deceased was done as ... Applicants have testified that they knew that it was not ANC policy to carry out acts of robbery. They say that because they found themselves in a life and death situation they had not choice but to devise plans to protect their people. They also say that they were not acting out of malice or ... "I was amongst the people who chased the deceased, Mr Moeng, from his house and poured petrol on him and set him alight although I could not get a chance to assault and burn him personally due to many people in front of me. However, I had the common purpose of killing the deceased ... The 3rd Applicant has been a member of the ANC since 1982. During September 1984 he was a teacher at Amangwe High School near Empangeni, his employer being the KwaZulu Government. He was also at that time actively involved in ANC matters particularly in regard to setting up structures within the ... On the night of the incident he and his comrades one "Wizz" Rantla and Mosa Nkuta were on a reconnaissance mission in a stolen vehicle. The police suspected the car to be a stolen vehicle and tried to stop them. They drove off and managed to get away and got out of the car at White City. The ... Although he might have used the vehicle for a political purpose, the persistent denial is a problem. We are not a Court of Appeal. Obviously the Magistrate disbelieved him, hence the conviction. We have turned down many such applications in the past, otherwise we would have opened the door for ... CHAIRPERSON: I think we must bear in mind that we're talking of something nine years ago and for people to remember precisely who was in what car at what stage of the journey, is ... Right, questions? The salient features of the undisputed versions of Applicants are as follows. They were resident in Cradock and were members of the Cradock Youth Association ("Cradoya") at the time of the incident. Their political affiliation is confirmed in letters addressed to the Committee by the Cradock ... The Applicants testified that they were members of the security department of the ANC at the time and were asked to investigate complaints by the community in Dambuza. This involved complaints about intimidation by a gang led by the deceased. There were allegations that this gang acted in support ... The operation was not carried out in accordance with the original plan because whilst the Applicants were strategically placing explosive cables around the out building structure Y, which was known to accommodate the alleged infiltrators, one of the ANC activists came out and noted the ... MR SIMANGA: Insp Mfene showed the dissatisfaction of the government, of the way the government was treating us as the police in the former Ciskei and the working conditions and the things that were happening such as killing of people. MR KOOPEDI: The only sad part Chair is that Judge Motata's comments were not recorded as his mike was off and I believe it is important for us to note that it is indeed the Vanderbijl Square and not Vanderbijlpark which is a town in the Vaal. I would then say, Chairperson, that is the application ... MR DU PREEZ SMIT: Well we did find out that there was a vehicle that exploded there, that people were killed. I do not know how many and I do not know how many were injured, and that the hospital itself was damaged by this explosion. Thank you chairperson - perhaps just before I ask the witness to take the oath, the translation devices that we’ve got, enables people to listen in to the testimony in the language to which you can follow. Now on the black box section of the translation device there are two wheels, the one wheel ... CHAIRPERSON: The other people who gave evidence, referred to the Jubilee Hotel, saying that they were called there, were you also called? MS VAN DER WESTHUIZEN: Mr Chairperson, the whereabouts of certain witnesses who might be able to assist the Committee to come to a final decision in this matter, became known to me last night, it was actually confirmed that there are still people who is residing in the Jabulani hostel. I was also ... CHAIRPERSON: Yes, I wanted to make everybody aware who is here, our life-span is really limited and it is our view and the considered view that we cannot allow postponements. Like we are here, we've got to finish everything here in Bloemfontein. We won't come back and should there be a matter ... MR GREYLING: During the arrest of Siphiwe Nyanda I was present. There were not enough people in the office and they were looking for persons to assist with the arrest. |
