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people's warExplanation Showing 701 to 720 of 1003 First Page•Previous Page 32 •33 •34 •35 •36 •37 •38 •39 •40 Next Page•Last PageCROSS-EXAMINATION BY MR DU PLESSIS: May I proceed Mr Chairman, thank you. Mr Goosen, the information that you had with regard to Morudi and the people that would have been in the house that night, do you agree with Mr Momberg's evidence as far as that is concerned, the question that I asked him? MR BOOYENS: Chairperson, with regard to Mr Kobus Kok, on page 30, I don't know if the people are ashamed to say that they were supporters of the National Party, because not one of the applicants do that. I don't know whether you find it necessary to recall him about that, but I would ... MR LE ROUX: Basically we went to the scene immediately and then the media liaison officer arranged that among others Chris Olckers from the SABC, people from the press and other members of publicity teams would be there. CHAIRPERSON: This has not been a hearing where there's been a great deal of conflicting evidence where one has to weigh up the evidence. There have been differences between various people as to who was at what meeting, who did precisely what but the picture of what happened is reasonably clear, ... The first applicant testified that he had been trained as an MK Soldier, both inside and outside South Africa and that at the time of the incidents under discussion he was the Commander of the second applicant and other members of an ANC cell which had been created in the Newcastle area. First ... At the time in question the police were regarded by both the Mamelodi Committee and MK as being enemies of the people. Members of the SAP had been harassing and victimising members of the Mamelodi community and various attacks were planned and carried out by MK against members of the SAP as ... MR HATTINGH: Yes, yes, that's all I'm trying to put on record, that the string and the wax might have been applied in the post office and not by the people who prepared the package. CHAIRPERSON: We welcome you and I will ask you to give your testimony freely. So that all the people inside this hall can hear you very well. I will ask one of the Commissioners to help you with the oath. On the 10th October the Tembisa Police Station Barracks was similarly bombed. Three people sustained injuries. CHAIRPERSON: ...(inaudible). There are other matters involved in Mr Thusi's application, which do not involve the present parties and which I have not commented on, but I would urge that the papers are gone through carefully and if there are any other persons who should be notified or informed of ... MR VABAZA: The third applicant, Mr Chairperson and members, is Mabitana Mani. He is also amongst the five group of people. ADV SANDI: You are going to tell us about these two people here. MR NKABINDE: Yes, my name is Abel Nkabinde known as M A Nkabinde. I was born in 1958 in the area of Leandra. I am the first Chairperson of the then organisation in this town which was called Leandra Action Committee which was established in 1980. Then briefly, Leandra was established in 1904 by ... MR NYAKAMA: I was a secretary in our section, that is Lusaka-A. That is, I was a SANCO secretary. Our duties included listening to people's complaints and we also sat at the SANCO central level where we represented people's complaints. MR MABOTE: I made it clear in my application that I left them in the township, I left them with Comrade Sam and Comrade Lucky. Thereafter they took them to the stadium where all members of self defence unit handed over all their firearms. I was present at the stadium when they were handed over, ... And that’s signed by dr Van Heerden. I would also like it placed on record that a number of people from the community have come to us and said that dr Van Heerden is known in this community as a very caring and compassionate doctor. The lawyer of the accused just talked and thereafter and the Magistrate although said but the interpreter told me that these people were found not guilty. The one thing that hurt me my witnesses were not there, my lawyer was not there. The doctor didn’t give his statement. I just heard that the ... MRS MTSWENI: I do not believe that it was a natural death. He was always undergoing treatment and I think there’s some substance that was coming out of his mouth. I think this was a direct result of the attack by the Inkatha people six previous years. You have said it all, the political motive, it is there, it is not strong enough. If it is there, it has not surfaced sufficiently for any of the people who listened to the applicant giving his evidence, to see. Mokoena's response was he was referring to the leaders as people who knew of the activities of the gang, and knew that the ANC Youth League members were victims of these attacks. |
