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people's warExplanation Showing 721 to 740 of 1000 First Page•Previous Page 33 •34 •35 •36 •37 •38 •39 •40 •41 Next Page•Last PageAll those people who were being killed were IFP members. Now we were told that we must come back to Pietermaritzburg and kill everyone who belonged to UDF or ANC. Reliving the past was traumatic for most witnesses, but throughout the week there was a comforting hand to help them through the pain. // Mafu, we’ve been seeing you all week sitting in this chair with your hand on somebody’s shoulder. What was your role here in East London? // Max, I’ve been ... I think this case is now, in the Eastern Cape region, I know that it’s becoming a very crucial case for where the people are going to take this process of reconciliation via the Truth and Reconciliation Commission seriously, or whether they are going to write it off. We are going to do all in ... In fact by then the situation was very, very tense so that I thought that to stab her was the only way to get what she’s got, like that list of our names. If I couldn’t do that maybe those people who were named could have been also killed. So, I was trying to save the community on what she was ... The courts have become an important tool for people who don’t like the Truth and Reconciliation Commission. In the latest round, four policemen and former policemen have sued the former Cape MEC for safety and security, Dennis Neer, for defamation after he told the Truth Commission in Port ... ... water over him. This seemed to revive him. He began to talk. But I could see he was not telling the truth, he was merely trying to save himself and Warrant Officer Koole asked him some question. I can’t recall the nature of the question at the moment, which was perceived by the old man as a ... People used to dance and we used to sit here – my mother was very strict, I couldn’t cross the road – I just had to sit there at the stoep and watch. Sometimes I used to feel scared because when they danced, they just went on their … jumped on their tummies like this with nothing on their ... I wake up at night then small fat men with bald heads chase me. They chase me and pin me down. When I call for help no voice comes out. There was a time people said I was mad because they regarded those of us who came from the border as mad. The drama that led to the death of Stompie Seipei started in late 1988 with the accusation that Methodist minister Paul Verryn was sexually abusing four young people who were running from the police. Katiza Cebekhulu said Madikizela-Mandela told him to claim that Verryn had raped him. The worst part of it is that one couldn’t get out of it, you will just disappear like Ace Moema, we don’t know where he is. Many other people that were in Vlakplaas, they just disappeared. Even if you asked … if you posed a threat to the security, you’re gone. I mean you make a braai around the person being burnt alive, being blown to pieces and … nothing! You don’t see it. That’s what I therefore think, that evil has a tendency of not only taking away from you the feeling that you’re human but it blinds your eyes, you can’t see. It blinds your ... And the ‘them and us’ philosophy will never work for this country and there has been very, very little reconciliation on the part of white people in this country, they don’t want to sacrifice, they don’t want to atone and they shift the blame, they don’t want to take responsibility for ... ... hear evidence on the reign of terror of the Toasters gang. You may have seen that the Special Rreport team was given the foreign correspondence award for outstanding journalism. Tonight we want to dedicate this award to all the people who have appeared before the Truth Commission, the people ... Under the heading ‘special projects’ support for anti-Marxist liberation movements, Mortimer talked about SADF support for UNITA in Angola, RENAMO in Mozambique and the Lesotho Liberation Army. And then he dropped in this insignificant little paragraph. // Inkatha. In 1985 chief minister ... In the manse in December 1988 there were various people given refuge. Correct? // That is correct. // They included Katiza Cebekhulu, Stompie Seipei, Pelo Mekgwe, Thabiso Mono and Kenny Kgase. // That is correct. // Did you ever rape any of those people? // No. // Did you ever sexually molest any ... But we couldn’t see; we were outside the airport, but quite near, about 50 feet across. But we didn’t see what happened, but you could imagine. So there was a commotion. So Mike was shouting you people go down. We were actually restricted not to sort of take pictures at that time when that happened, when we heard the Archbishop sort of broke down. We all flied out of there, which was the media room to try to get pictures of it. With the result, we got there and it was all over and done with. But then I ... During the apartheid year many Africans living in the so-called coloured preferential areas gave up their ethnic identities and called themselves coloured. In the Karoo they called this ‘om jou baadjie om te draai,’ to turn your jacket inside out. There were many advantages to passing as ... We actually are talking about creating something that never was in this country. // Conciliation as far as I’m concerned will mean that you have to take away the anger and the animosity in people and make them understand the need to stay and work together. According to me more people could have been killed that night if it wasn’t to the quick reaction of the people. The white guys basically, well all of them who’s got military training, so when you pick up a shot or when you hear shots going off you know automatically what to do. |
