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people's warExplanation Showing 761 to 780 of 1000 First Page•Previous Page 35 •36 •37 •38 •39 •40 •41 •42 •43 Next Page•Last PageAs advocate Bizos clearly said today, we knew that when you get taken by these people they can get anything out of you, because if they don’t get it from you voluntarily they’ll smash you up to get it and that is what they have done with all of us and that is what our, of course presumption is ... Did you lie to your attorney? // I did Mr. Chairman. // Nobody compelled you to lie to your attorney? // No one compelled me Mr. Chairman except for the fact that I was busy with an armed struggle and I was determined to give as much opposition as possible under any circumstances. // What support ... ... whole armed struggle was the continuation of that. And actually we can draw the ancient wisdom from our forefathers when Dingaan said to the Zulu warriors ‘Bulala abathakathi.’ What did he mean? He meant that those dispossessors, abathakathi, the Zulu warriors didn’t ask among themselves ... Over the fourteen months the South African truth process developed its own unique identity. Even while listening to the most harrowing testimony people could still laugh. People also sang, gave comfort to others and when there was nothing more to say, they prayed. I personally can perceive no definition of direct human rights violations which could possibly be attributed to business generally during that period. My view is that business could certainly have been seen to be doing more, but whether that would have had any affect on a government determined to ... That’s the area that I am finding a little bit difficult in giving a one and definite answer. I can only say, since I say also in my affidavit, that this is not new to me. I’ve just been handed in, in fact, from my office I’ve had it faxed. In 1992 there is a press statement which apparently ... ... I was arrested at the airport in Cape Town and was held overnight in a dark, filthy cell in Roeland street prison. The next day I was taken to Swartskop Aerodrome in Pretoria in a light military aircraft. I was driven to Pretoria Central Prison and stripped naked and searched. // I was ... It’s been incredible. There are two impressions, one, how could we ever be so ghastly, the depth of depravity takes your breath away. That’s the one side. The other side is almost exhilarating, that people who have suffered as much as these should have this capacity to forgive, this magnanimity ... Poverty, repression and police brutality in the 1980s. The townships on the East Rand were seething. Six COSAS leaders died in July in 1985 after being lured into launching an attack with hand grenades, booby trapped by Vlakplaas policeman Joe Mamasela. At one of their funerals Maki Skosana was ... ... with the Imbali support group. // We were sitting in the house, the Gabela house, that has experienced unspeakable terror, even from ’86 onwards because Sipho her son was a UDF member and a spokesperson for the youth. In ’89 Sipho was so severely injured by white policemen and Mama ... We’ve heard a lot of evidence about how you people went into houses and you saw some person there you didn’t know so you killed them. // [We heard such evidence] // So wasn’t it important to find out who was in a house? How many people were there? Whether there were innocent people there or ... Tell me about the Aliwal North exhumations, do you have strong evidence besides forensics evidence about whether those were members of a MK unit. // Well, the evidence seems to be sufficient. I wouldn’t say it is conclusive, but it seems to be sufficient, because one, it is a consequence of ... During the marathon three year court case which more than 3000 people brought against the police they denied complicity with the witdoeke and eventually no one was found guilty for the deaths and destruction. But this week the Truth Commission heard this man, Ulrich Schellhase admit the links. ... In October 1985 the world got to see an amazing piece of television footage shot in South Africa. A number of policemen hid in boxes on an open truck and provoked angry young people to throw stones at them. Like in a violent movie the world watched the policemen jump up and mow down the stone ... In stark contrast really to what have taken place in the business sector hearings where on the whole you found people in a self justifying mode. Here, extraordinarily, virtually every single one of those who testified from the different faith communities and the different Christian denominations ... ... the activities of you and your associates you label them, as informers and working with the system. What is your reaction to that? // I am not aware of people I have falsely accused of being informers whenever they are working against me. // Well you are yet to prove any evidence that they ... Reliving the past was traumatic for most witnesses, but throughout the week there was a comforting hand to help them through the pain. // Mafu, we’ve been seeing you all week sitting in this chair with your hand on somebody’s shoulder. What was your role here in East London? // Max, I’ve been ... So was Katiza Cebekhulu consigned to oblivion because he would no longer play Winnie Mandela’s game? Winnie’s hold over ordinary people was awesome, but her protection may have gone far higher than the mere foot soldiers as both President Juluba and Emma Nicholson found out. I think this case is now, in the Eastern Cape region, I know that it’s becoming a very crucial case for where the people are going to take this process of reconciliation via the Truth and Reconciliation Commission seriously, or whether they are going to write it off. We are going to do all in ... The courts have become an important tool for people who don’t like the Truth and Reconciliation Commission. In the latest round, four policemen and former policemen have sued the former Cape MEC for safety and security, Dennis Neer, for defamation after he told the Truth Commission in Port ... |
