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people's warExplanation Showing 781 to 800 of 1000 First Page•Previous Page 36 •37 •38 •39 •40 •41 •42 •43 •44 Next Page•Last PageI said it was an international problem, a humanitarian gesture that you could make. You could do something wonderful today. He said what. I said find a missing prisoner, somebody who has nothing to do with Zambia, who didn’t commit a crime here as far as I understand, who I believe is in Lusaka ... ... they’ve restructured the events, he showed them the place where the three people were killed and I believe he has made a valuable contribution toward solving that murder. ... What was it in our people or our history that made this ghastly practice possible and so popular? // There’s a whole process that leads finally to the brutality of the necklace as a method of murder. And that for me is actually what we should have recorded in the eighties and it never got ... fairly late, after nine on the 19th of November 1989 I reported to Brigadier Van der Hofen, who was staying in the official police flats on the C R Swart square police premises, where I reported that the mission has been completed, that Mxenge was killed. ... Finca is also deeply disappointed by what he calls the apathetic way in which most white people in this country have responded to the TRC. We need to address the poverty that is gripping the people, all of us together at this point in time, and then I think conciliation, reconciliation, rainbow nation will mean something to the majority of the people of this country. Since Friday evening South Africans have been asking each other, do you believe Winnie Mandela? What will this do to her public career? Do ordinary people hold her responsible for the death and destruction caused by the people around her in ’87 and ’88? We don’t know. What we do know is that ... May God bless our country, may God bless our leaders and its people. Kgotso ayibelilina, [may peace be with you] thank you. There had been much speculation in newspapers about possible clashes between large numbers of right wingers and ANC demonstrators. The white people of George were holding their breath and the police were ready for anything. But when the first groups of chanting protestors arrived from the township ... And their presence was not necessarily tolerated. // ‘We don’t want those pagans here! They are barbarians and pagans. We can’t have those Zulus here. We even suspect they’re mercenaries those people. They’re mercenaries! Schools have… we are teachers, let me tell you, we are teachers ... And in the course of it … I remember Bishop’s story, I think he is the one who asked why I thought I ought to be a Commissioner. Then I said well maybe I ought to be the one because first of all I’m a Marxist, which I think blew everybody, because I mean we had people from the Freedom Front ... Something is right or not right, and the black people were below us, slaves and mostly used as labourers. There were people along the road from the Executive Hotel down to this space. These people were armed; I didn’t know why they were armed. When I came in here I found a crowd of people. // When we gathered there in thousands the police and soldiers were there in hundreds. Now, we didn’t know ... I will agree that maybe I summarized the matter wrong, but I’m of the opinion that the whole situation is so emotionally charged that different people will get different messages from what is happening. Samuel Jamile was a well known IFP politician in the eighties. Mrs. Khuswayo believes he’s responsible for her husband’s death. // The true story is that Jamile, myself Samuel Bhikizizwe Jamile, I have never killed anybody, I’ve never instructed anybody. I was an Inkatha man and these people ... The politicians can say we didn”t give that order, because they didn”t give that order. It”s nowhere stated that we said so and so should be killed. We said so and so should be eliminated, but we meant that that person should be detained. And then never having any real knowledge, or real ... If people are assisted financially over time with counselling and guidance it gives them an opportunity to improve their lot so to say, in a variety of ways. But I mean as I’ve said to you really we are there as advocates for victims. At the end of the day the government of the day has got to ... In the old apartheid regime, when they called you a very good cop, you’re a cop who takes orders and execute them without asking questions; then you’re a good cop. // You obviously heard of your colleagues at Vlakplaas who were involved in killing people as well. // Yes, that came to my ... Thereafter, what was done with the bodies of the deceased? // The wood was placed in a large pile in the backyard, the people were carried to the wood, put on top of it, // All three of them? // Yes. And it was set alight and diesel was poured over. If Mr. Bizos is going to use statements made under duress, which half of them are rubbish and when people were drunk, and he is going to say yes, but you said that, there and you said that in your application and its contradictory. We don’t know to what degree they’re going to worry about the ... |
