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people's warExplanation Showing 821 to 840 of 1000 First Page•Previous Page 38 •39 •40 •41 •42 •43 •44 •45 •46 Next Page•Last Page... apparently, when the Buckaneers and the Camberers came in, most of the people were assembled on the parade ground. And, they caught them totally unaware and literally hundreds of people died on the parade ground. Any large external operation that the South African Defence Force did required ... I would like the Truth Commission to assist me. I would even like De Kock’s evidence to be followed up, because I’d like these people to reveal the whole truth. How many people did Winnie kill? Has she ever been in jail for those murders? No. // If anyone gets into the bad books of Winnie she can resort to any solution of her choice. // ‘Roar young lions roar!’ // Now I can say Mrs. Mandela is a murderer and a killer of the nation. She’s no longer ... Was the South African government directly involved in the planning of the coup? // Yes that was a direct plan and attempt from Military Intelligence, number one. Number two, Department of Foreign Affairs were very closely involved. In actual fact, a lot of the operations came right out of Umtata ... ... And while my brother was laying on the ground the policeman’s colleagues came out and congratulated him telling him it was a good shot. Afterwards there was a court case but the decision of the court was that no one was to blame, that the policeman acted in the line of his duty, so no one ... There is a whole range of complicity we’re dealing with. Various countries such as Chile and Uruguay, which went through authoritarian regimes, have documented quite flagrant participation in torture. But they’ve also documented, as have other countries, that quite often what happened is very ... And you’ll find that with people knowing that it is possible to burn a person. I mean, that kind of coverage developed psychologically in the minds of other people whereby people felt now that it is a good strategy, it’s a more popular strategy to burn your enemy and in these rural areas most ... I didn’t think I would be very surprised by what I heard. I think all of us on the Commission have, in fact I think the whole country has learnt much more about what happened. Prepared in other ways I think I was very reluctant to accept nomination for the Commission. I didn’t want to do this ... Let’s get some comment in Johannesburg. // Max, I’d rather focus on where the Truth Commission has succeeded. To me, as a viewer. // OK, let’s talk about that. // I think that a lot of people in the case of Steve Biko’s killing wanted this not to be part of the TRC process. Their argument ... The worst part of it is that one couldn’t get out of it, you will just disappear like Ace Moema, we don’t know where he is. Many other people that were in Vlakplaas, they just disappeared. Even if you asked … if you posed a threat to the security, you’re gone. I wake up at night then small fat men with bald heads chase me. They chase me and pin me down. When I call for help no voice comes out. There was a time people said I was mad because they regarded those of us who came from the border as mad. According to me more people could have been killed that night if it wasn’t to the quick reaction of the people. The white guys basically, well all of them who’s got military training, so when you pick up a shot or when you hear shots going off you know automatically what to do. We actually are talking about creating something that never was in this country. // Conciliation as far as I’m concerned will mean that you have to take away the anger and the animosity in people and make them understand the need to stay and work together. In 1993 more than 1500 people were killed in the orgies of violence that engulfed the East Rand townships near Johannesburg. Most of the violence was rooted in the political conflict between the supporters of the ANC, who were primarily township residents, and Inkatha hostel dwellers. Bloody ... And at the time our base was Air Force Base Waterkloof, so I arranged to leave there a little bit earlier to first go via Air Force Headquarters so I could collect a certain documentation which I wanted to use for recruiting purposes. I was a fighter controller instructor. We proceeded to Air Force ... Police claimed that the crowd of people who were shot at were armed with sticks, stones, petrol bombs, and bricks with which they had intended to attack the white inhabitants of Uitenhage. Minister of Law and Order, Louis Le Grange immediately appointed judge Kannemeyer to head up a commission of ... Why aren’t you making it public? This … // All in time, all in good time. // On whose decision? This is meant to be a transparent process, it’s meant to be for the people who have been oppressed and deprived. // This whole thing about transparency, there’s nothing about transparency that ... The helicopter was looking for me because I was the one who escaped from that scene, but they couldn’t even find me. // He does not want to be named or known until he has spoken to the Truth Commission. // Our unit started 1984. Our vision was to be trained and defend the people on the ground. ... The Truth Commission process is not about the Commissioners or the politicians. It belongs to the citizens of this country. While we were looking back at the Truth Commission’s first year we took our cameras to the streets, the townships, the suburbs and the shopping malls and we asked ordinary ... You were there to protect not to attack, not to kill. // Yes it is so sir. // Can you explain how you can possibly think you were protecting anybody when these four people were being beaten by a vast crowd? Why should it be necessary for you to join in beating them with an iron rod? |
