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people's warExplanation Showing 861 to 880 of 1000 First Page•Previous Page 40 •41 •42 •43 •44 •45 •46 •47 •48 Next Page•Last PageIt is true that most of the witnesses who testified here were lying. As far as I am concerned Richardson was lying. As far as I am concerned the two youths who claim that I gave them money to kill Dr Asvat were lying. As far as I’m concerned Morgan’s ludicrous statements made before you here ... People do not have energy to fight daily, you can’t have that energy. Fighting is not a sweet thing, you know, it’s not Bar One, because we lose friends, we lose families, we lose everything. For nearly two decades now people of this country have been witness to the story of our proud but often shameful past; a story of pain, suffering and agony, of bones emerging from the bowels of the earth of unmarked graves, of death and suffering and of unspeakable evil . This conciliation/reconciliation is not about hearing that my child was killed here and so on and then say well I’m sorry and I forgive you and that is it. It is for families, it is for communities, gradually as they move on in life to find the capacity on a daily basis to overcome the traumas. ... In October 1991 they decided to break into a house at Louis Trichardt. Jurgens White knew the Roux family and their home well and he knew where to look for weapons. // Mrs. Dubani at that stage was outside, busy sweeping, standing right in front of us. Virtually looking straight into White’s face ... You say that during this period - that’s during the eighties, mid eighties - both Ciskei and South African military and police forces were losing control of the situation and they showed using irregular forces and thugs as their covert agents to destabilize these communities and their Committee. ... When they see, even at a bus stop, when they see black people in a queue, they quickly surround them; arrest them, those who have got no passes. Everywhere! Even going to church, on Sunday, going to church, they stop them from going to church. They ask your pass. If you leave your pass you are ... ... it became the SANC, we never saw Desmond Tutu for more than 20 seconds. And then all he said was ‘sanctions’ and we thought, die kabouter [the dwarf/goblin/pixie]! But what a sweet, good man. He treats me like a human being, not like an enemy. He always kisses my hand and he’s very small so ... Our objective was to reclaim the land so that it could be given back to its original owners, the African people. // The farmers…you must understand that they form part or they were part of the oppressors at that time, because the farmers, you could actually define them twofold: they can be police ... Four people were burnt to death and four others were badly injured. // Our intention was to burn down the house, but however things didn’t go as we anticipated and as a result of our actions people died, but never there was any agreement between us to kill anyone on that sad day. It was never our ... We actually, we put our limpet mine in the Kentucky box in order to make sure that no one is going to be able to see us when we are putting inside the bin which was there in Berea Station. We behaved as people that were just eating this chicken and now we are throwing the box of the chicken, ... ... going to be emotional and I’m going to … I need these people who did these things to come and reconcile with them and to ensure that we move ... This melting pot of musicians, writers, artists and gangsters has often been described as our Chicago of the fifties. One loses oneself in the romance of ‘guys and dolls,’ of super cool, of cutting edge. It was a time of no constraints in a time of chains as legislation slowly disinherited ... And then there are the people sometimes only vaguely associated with the ANC who were killed by the IFP. Often the KwaZulu police were suspected of being involved in these killings or involved by closing their ears and their eyes to people’s cries for help. Were the infiltrators armed? // Definitely. Both groups, as you know it was two incidents, two separate incidents. Both groups were armed. // No there were no firearms on them. There was absolutely no firearms found on these people and nothing were handed to me. The Bonteheuwel Military Wing started precisely because we needed to respond to the manner in which the state operated. We needed to one, defend ourselves, defend our community, because it appeared as if our community were under siege. We had a situation where there were, police put patrols – and ... It was terror, Stalin was paranoid and he supposed that almost all foreigners are spies and many people in his own country also, he cannot trust them. That day of the murder I was busy with other things. I was fighting the police, for what they were doing was shooting people with teargas. // On that day of the happenings I was here at home… // I was not there where the policeman was killed. I don’t know who killed him up to this day. My heart was closed, not only my eyes, also my heart was closed because of the system. It was all the information we received and rather to take the easy way out and that is to keep quiet and this is why this was an opportunity for me, Mr. Chairman, in which I could say that this thing which ... The problem was, the communities, the people themselves felt they’ve been oppressed by the apartheid government. At the same time, when they go back to their place of living, they are now under threat from the witches. So you can see that in the course of that struggle, people have two opponents ... |
