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people's warExplanation Showing 861 to 880 of 1000 First Page•Previous Page 40 •41 •42 •43 •44 •45 •46 •47 •48 Next Page•Last PageThe late eighties and early nineties were bloody years in KwaZulu-Natal. South Africans became almost immune to daily bulletins of massacres and running battles in especially the KwaZulu-Natal midlands. Our next report looks at the people affected by this turmoil and how they face the future. The Truth Commission is getting tough at last and for a change this programme’s timing was perfect, because within a day of our asking some tough questions of the Truth Commission in last week’s programme we saw a new spirit of determination from the Truth Commission. // This velvet glove does ... What we are really looking at is to make sure that we plant a seed. We know what is the goal of the Truth and Reconciliation Commission. It’s basically to establish partly a culture of human rights, to promote national healing and reconciliation. So obviously if you give people handouts, ... People don’t have houses. People must get houses, they must get back their houses; they must get compensation. Then that would be an indication that something is being done and I think maybe, maybe in the long run people will forgive and forget. No wonder National Party crown prince Hernus Kriel this week said the National Party should start boycotting the Truth Commission. We stay in KwaZulu-Natal, but we move on the human rights violations hearings in Empangeni this week. After almost six months of testimony before the Truth Commission ... General JJ Viktor is a much decorated South African policeman with 45 years of service behind him. Amongst other achievements he founded the base at Vlakplaas in 1979. In September 1992 he was head of the Ciskei Police Force. // My men and I don’t reflect on the CDF. I was not their commander. My ... If Mr. Bizos is going to use statements made under duress, which half of them are rubbish and when people were drunk, and he is going to say yes, but you said that, there and you said that in your application and its contradictory. We don’t know to what degree they’re going to worry about the ... Samuel Jamile was a well known IFP politician in the eighties. Mrs. Khuswayo believes he’s responsible for her husband’s death. // The true story is that Jamile, myself Samuel Bhikizizwe Jamile, I have never killed anybody, I’ve never instructed anybody. I was an Inkatha man and these people ... We’ve had a great reluctance on the part of individuals to talk about what happened in the region because of this difficulty with the amnesty provision, that it may not necessarily apply, an amnesty granted here doesn’t apply say in Botswana. And that of course has been a major disincentive for ... Instructions I got from Johns were that myself and Andile will be my assistant in that unit as an assistant commander. He also led me to two gentlemen and also gave us instruction that we should go to New Castle, and fire arms are already New Castle, and when we arrive in New Castle we’ll attack ... In a sense its rather ironic that in a time when Mr PW Botha doesn’t want to come to the TRC that some of the more right wing people are wanting to come to the TRC and I think we owe them that they should have a hearing, or an event where they can put their case. Also for the sake of ... Let me just quickly before we lose this thread go back to Professor Giliomee. Professor, you talked about maybe we should have had trials, there should have been a continuation of that. In other words, a criminal judicial process. In other words we should have instead of amnesty; we should have ... There’s one thing that I will have to live with till the day I day, it’s the corpses that I will have to drag with me to my grave, of the people whom I’ve killed. Remorse, I can assure you a lot, a hell of a lot. As an individual and perhaps being involved with quite a number of others it shows the recognitions of the efforts of those who fought against apartheid. And it does not only show how good and how well deserving their struggle was, but at the same time it shows appreciation of the people that were ... The cult of the individual, the cult of personality. I think those who have read the histories of the world would know about those events in various countries where powerful figures, where the desire, in fact their desire in even affect acquire reverence from in fact subjects, become so powerful, ... The politicians can say we didn”t give that order, because they didn”t give that order. It”s nowhere stated that we said so and so should be killed. We said so and so should be eliminated, but we meant that that person should be detained. And then never having any real knowledge, or real ... I will agree that maybe I summarized the matter wrong, but I’m of the opinion that the whole situation is so emotionally charged that different people will get different messages from what is happening. If people are assisted financially over time with counselling and guidance it gives them an opportunity to improve their lot so to say, in a variety of ways. But I mean as I’ve said to you really we are there as advocates for victims. At the end of the day the government of the day has got to ... Thereafter, what was done with the bodies of the deceased? // The wood was placed in a large pile in the backyard, the people were carried to the wood, put on top of it, // All three of them? // Yes. And it was set alight and diesel was poured over. In the old apartheid regime, when they called you a very good cop, you’re a cop who takes orders and execute them without asking questions; then you’re a good cop. // You obviously heard of your colleagues at Vlakplaas who were involved in killing people as well. // Yes, that came to my ... |
