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right-wing attacksExplanation MR MONONI: We were going to use the firearms to defend the community against attacks by Inkatha and vigilantes and other people who were troubling the community. JUDGE DE JAGER: Could you kindly explain, we see this family before us now, were any other people involved with them in the attacks lodged against the ANC, or were they the only people attacking the ANC? In that area. JUDGE DE JAGER: Before you get to that, did you and Gen Erasmus, during that time, discuss what you had to do about bomb plantings, attacks and what counter-measures you had to take and what the police had to do in such circumstances? MR LEBEA: The Task Force is part of APLA. It was established to protect the community against the attacks. As you know very well that the previous regime was attacking the Africans, it was basically to protect the community and to assist APLA with ammunition. the guidelines as intended, were only of application to the Defence Force, and you were aware of the fact that the police was also launching similar attacks, did it not occur to you or didn't you think about formulating similar guidelines for the ... of sorts in any event, just to get at him as a person, then besides that, Captain Hechter's testimony was quite clear that whether these threatening attacks on Police were ultimately stopped or not by the use of this explosion, the general thrust of this type of action was in any event aimed at ... "Apparently he had once again become involved in illegalities regarding attacks on police". Our duty was to protect the residents who did not support the municipality of the time. Since the ISU was being used to threaten people, we were forced to find ourselves weapons which were the same as theirs so that we could protect ourselves from attacks. MR MDLETSHE: The attacks would not happen in the open, if say for instance, they met an IFP member, they could assault them just for the sake that they were IFP members. They would call us names like clover and so forth. MR SKOSANA: According to the initial arrangement we were supposed to go to all three targets and it was only going to be possible for us to launch these attacks if we have a transport. Since we did not have a transport that is why we launched only one attack. ... who had killed those men or one of those men had been camping at Mr Majola's home and also that he had supplied them with firearms to carry out the ... MR BERGER: You never saw any marchers in front of Shell House performing mock attacks on the guards stationed at the entrance to Shell House? MR HATTINGH: And briefly what happened there was that people who were suspected of being involved in attacks on Policemen, and homes of Policemen, would be provided with handgrenades of which the delay mechanisms had been removed so that as soon as the pin had been removed, the handgrenade would ... MR VLOK: Mr Chairperson, when I became a member of the AWB, there were various acts of terror across the country and attacks were launched at us as Afrikaners and the government of the day and I reconciled myself with the principles of the AWB and I wanted to be trained at that stage because at ... MS LOONAT: What did you do about these attacks? DR RAMASHALA: Would you also say that it was in the interest of the security forces for these attacks to take place? MR LAMEY: And then you say in each of the incidents the attacks were carried out on identified houses, and according to what you understood they were all the homes of activists, is that correct? This is not what they did all the time Mr Chairman, they were essentially an intelligence and surveillance unit, but in the evenings and on an ad hoc occasion they did participate in these so-called right-wing attacks as well. In our view all the attacks took place within the political atmosphere that existed in South Africa at the time and that the Applicants have disclosed all the necessary facts related to these attacks. MR PRETORIUS: So according to the information you had, the attacks could also have been launched by these other marchers? |