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right-wing attacksExplanation Showing 381 to 400 of 1017 First Page•Previous Page 16 •17 •18 •19 •20 •21 •22 •23 •24 Next Page•Last PageNow you tell us in one breath that you were the person responsible for all these attacks and you could only give the decision, but yet you as a member or the person in charge, can't identify all these people properly, how is it that you place the eldest son of the Mbongwa family, whose name you do ... REV MAQINA: Why I talked to probe and mentioned about the third force, I had some reasons because you would find that when there were attacks, you would find that it would be reported that it was the AZAPO members who attacked the UDF members, but I knew that most of them were inside in my place. It was not the ANC's success if it was our failure. And there was I would say for example, and also attacks like the one on Koeberg and Voortrekker incident, caused great anger, especially right at the top. I am talking now about the Prime Minister, later the President, and it was based on ... CHAIRPERSON: Mr Kincaid, before you start you client has referred to many, many incidents, he has testified about a number of attacks, he did assist us as a panel to have an idea about the specific offences that the amnesty application relate to. I don't know if you have applied your mind to that ... ... policeman from the John Vorster Square, Warrant Officer Paul Erasmus, in one of his many interviews to the media has spoken about a spate of attacks which included an attack in Bellevue East house where he says they had information that there was a terrorist staying there. What Warrant ... JUDGE MOTATA: Wouldn't there be two - before you do, wouldn't there be two attacks? Let's just be precise in this instance. He was attacked whilst he was staying at the hostel and there was this attack again. So let's just get clarity as to which attack we're talking about. Is it possible that you had two attacks at Mshayazafe at different times, or more than that in fact? CHAIRPERSON: Yes, but the impression, one of the possibilities of his interpretation of his evidence, was that after the attack on Port St Johns, that they had planned other attacks for that day, and he says now that he didn't say that. ... would sit around them. Those are other groups of people that were shot at and I'm not aware whether they got injured or died as a result of those ... MR NDLANGAMANDLA: I can explain, I don't think I'm making myself clear but if one comes and attacks me then that person is my enemy. ... was unemployed and his grandmother was killed by invading ANC supporters in a night raid. He was hiding in the bushes when he witnessed one of the attacks and this was on his home. His house was burnt that night whilst, as I said, he was watching from his hiding place. Fortunately his ... MR KNOETZE: Then I'd like to ask you, were you ever personally a target of terror attacks or were you never personally exposed to that? ... why it was because the enemy inside the country was still working very strongly and apparently we were often, the community was often subject to attacks. It was then felt that the situation needs to be curbed. This was the resolution taken by the movement, because apparently the National ... MR BERGER: Those bombs that you would give them to use, those would be for the purposes of carrying out attacks inside South Africa, is that right? MR DREYER: Do you know when the bombs went off, and the same question was asked to Mr Klopper and he could not give a certain date when certain bomb attacks occurred and he could not say if that had something to do with the revolution. If I may have misunderstood him, Mr Chairperson... ... ... that information showed that they were in contact with MK units within the area, and that is paragraph 24 to 26, that they had previously committed attacks. And you will recall that Mr Nceba at some meetings where Lengene had attended, boasted about that and that they were keen to do so again. ... MR ALBERTS: Now as general background to these attacks or these incidents among others, the introductory section of your amnesty application serves for this purpose and can be found in volume 1 from page 1 to 44. MR MOTATA: Yes, you're correct and the other attacks would be acts of criminality against the community? ... fair election. Swapo, the liberation movement in SWA at the time, was not a role player on the South African political scene. In any event, the attacks by the Appellants were not committed against Swapo. To grant amnesty for the acts the Appellants committed in Outjo would play no role in ... MR SMIT: We discussed that we would build these bombs in Koesterfontein. These bombs had to be used in these bomb attacks and we had to use the equipment we had. |