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right-wing attacksExplanation MR VAN ZYL: But the fact is that we have heard evidence here that there were previous attacks also where there was a direct confrontation with the authorities regarding the records of patients. We asked the first witness. Unfortunately, I couldn't at that time ...(intervention) ... that was dealing with what? Or tell us a little bit about the organisation. --- That women organisation was formed as a result of these attacks. We came together as women because we were all facing this problem of losing our children ranging around the ages of 17. And also one other ... MR TAYLOR: It was mostly, at that time, between AZAPO and the UDF, also assaults on policemen amongst others, the assaults on presons who at stage were under suspicion that they were informers. Those types of attacks were what we were referring to when we spoke of vigilante attacks. ... and most important, Mr Chairman, he also conceded that at some stage he considered the possiblity that Mr Mabotha himself was involved in such attacks. Now doesn't that make it highly probable that he could have told Mr de Kock exactly ... ... I would like to take you back to your statement, the amended one, page 3, the third paragraph. You say that during that period there were various attacks by black activists and ANC members on the farms of white people in the area where during these attacks illegal weapons were ... MR PATEL: And finally you claim amnesty for a general instruction to set up self-defence units who were to illegally arm themselves and to protect themselves in the community from unlawful attacks and at all costs to achieve stability in the area, do you confirm that? ... have fired a warning shot so as to avoid shooting innocent people. His subsequent shooting of the women who he conceded had nothing to do with the attacks, thus makes no sense in the light of this ... MS MTANGA: Did you know about any plot to kill anyone who refused to participate in the revenge attacks? MS LOONAT: So in fact, when you planned to carry out these retaliatory attacks on the other party, were you given any particular order or instruction to do so? Or to report to anybody when you'd done so? Will you please tell us about that. Colonel van Rensburg proposed and gave order that the attacks should appear as if it was a vigilante or ...(indistinct) attack, ... this organisation sought to disrupt the election which was to take place during this period. As part of this attempt to disrupt the election, attacks were launched on the lives of candidates who were running for election and apart from this, bomb attacks were also launched on premises which ... MR WILLS: And then the other incidents you are applying for amnesty concern attacks when you were stationed at Ndwedwe and there are attacks on ANC areas, and there are two incidents there, there’s an attack which we’re going to get into the details of in respect of where a pregnant woman was ... ... flowing from the incident. We further recommend to the Reparation and Rehabilitation Committee those persons identified above as targets of the attacks for which amnesty is being sought, be declared victims and considered for the award of ... MR VISSER: Tell me this, you say you were involved in other operations as well, attacks carried out within the borders of the Republic of South Africa? I have to address Mr Coleridge because unfortunately there are attacks on myself as a legal representative and my client. Well, first of all, we don't profess to exert any power. What we do have, is a Court order. We followed the justice process and the justice process agreed with my client. ... CHAIRPERSON: Is it correct that, that those Self-Defence Units were established as part of strategic plans, by the African National Congress, in order to defend its members against political attacks, physical political attacks? MR NGUBANE: The question that I had asked you, when you say that the police assisted Inkatha, were there any instances when the police would physically accompany Inkatha in the attacks that were directed at you? MR WILLS: Now you say that you and your group were involved in attacks on UDF areas. Is it also not so that at times your areas would be attacked my UDF persons? ... targeted operations to maim and kill, to sow distrust amongst and fear among communities, long range cross border bombings and indiscriminate attacks on civilians. I repeatedly asked you for an explanation as to how very senior members of the police force, ranging from generals through to ... ... what this week was all about in the amnesty application where certain applicants applied to appear in front of the Commission to hear evidence of attacks that took place in the early years '88 and this is why the Commission sits this week and can I ask you, are you aware of the facts that were ... |