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right-wing attacksExplanation MS LOONAT: So in fact, when you planned to carry out these retaliatory attacks on the other party, were you given any particular order or instruction to do so? Or to report to anybody when you'd done so? ... have fired a warning shot so as to avoid shooting innocent people. His subsequent shooting of the women who he conceded had nothing to do with the attacks, thus makes no sense in the light of this ... I have to address Mr Coleridge because unfortunately there are attacks on myself as a legal representative and my client. Well, first of all, we don't profess to exert any power. What we do have, is a Court order. We followed the justice process and the justice process agreed with my client. ... MR PATEL: And finally you claim amnesty for a general instruction to set up self-defence units who were to illegally arm themselves and to protect themselves in the community from unlawful attacks and at all costs to achieve stability in the area, do you confirm that? MR WILLS: And then the other incidents you are applying for amnesty concern attacks when you were stationed at Ndwedwe and there are attacks on ANC areas, and there are two incidents there, there’s an attack which we’re going to get into the details of in respect of where a pregnant woman was ... ... flowing from the incident. We further recommend to the Reparation and Rehabilitation Committee those persons identified above as targets of the attacks for which amnesty is being sought, be declared victims and considered for the award of ... ... and most important, Mr Chairman, he also conceded that at some stage he considered the possiblity that Mr Mabotha himself was involved in such attacks. Now doesn't that make it highly probable that he could have told Mr de Kock exactly ... The Applicant had not seen the deceased, Lifa Alwin Mtimkulu, during any of the attacks on the hostel. Lifa was, however, known to him as an ANC member or supporter. This is what led to him being attacked at Meadowlands Zone 4 where a wedding party was in progress. MR VAN ZYL: But the fact is that we have heard evidence here that there were previous attacks also where there was a direct confrontation with the authorities regarding the records of patients. We asked the first witness. Unfortunately, I couldn't at that time ...(intervention) CHAIRPERSON: Is it correct that, that those Self-Defence Units were established as part of strategic plans, by the African National Congress, in order to defend its members against political attacks, physical political attacks? ... that was dealing with what? Or tell us a little bit about the organisation. --- That women organisation was formed as a result of these attacks. We came together as women because we were all facing this problem of losing our children ranging around the ages of 17. And also one other ... MR TAYLOR: It was mostly, at that time, between AZAPO and the UDF, also assaults on policemen amongst others, the assaults on presons who at stage were under suspicion that they were informers. Those types of attacks were what we were referring to when we spoke of vigilante attacks. If you refer to vigilante attacks, which form did these vigilante attacks take, according to the best of your knowledge? ... I would like to take you back to your statement, the amended one, page 3, the third paragraph. You say that during that period there were various attacks by black activists and ANC members on the farms of white people in the area where during these attacks illegal weapons were ... MR VISSER: And this was in the matter attacks on houses, can you recall the names of the persons? ... this organisation sought to disrupt the election which was to take place during this period. As part of this attempt to disrupt the election, attacks were launched on the lives of candidates who were running for election and apart from this, bomb attacks were also launched on premises which ... MR BOOYENS: We have already, thanks to my colleague Mr Jansen, heard that shortly before the death of Mr Kondile there was also an explosion in Port Elizabeth so that these bomb attacks had already taken place there? ... not allegations that could render the Amabuvo political rivals, that's why I'm asking you the incidents where they felt that they were launching attacks against you and then very important for us to understand at what point exactly did those people wage war against you as an ... The applicants sought to avenge the attacks on their comrades. The acts applied for thus amount to acts of retaliation that were unrelated to the political struggle and objectives of the political organization of the applicants. JUDGE KHAMPEPE: I'm a little confused, Mr de Kock, maybe you can assist me. On your arrival in Lesotho, in preparation to execute this operation, did you know that the Meyer group was about to infiltrate the country with a view of launching attacks inside the country? |