Special Report Transcript Episode 31, Section 2, Time 04:05

From late 1985 Mbokodo conducted a series of mass raids against the people of Moutse and their Ndebele allies. In December 1985 67 year old Mmusi Mathebe was one of those taken to this hall and tortured. // They were going to give me 28 lashes. It was not like that. The one was standing this side the other was standing on the side. I was just in the middle of the table when the other one sjamboks me the other one will sjambok me until they were tired of assaulting me.

Notes: Mbokodo; TRC testimony: Mmusi Mathebe