Special Report Transcript Episode 74, Section 3, Time 22:31

I personally can perceive no definition of direct human rights violations which could possibly be attributed to business generally during that period. My view is that business could certainly have been seen to be doing more, but whether that would have had any affect on a government determined to hold its mistaken philosophy and power at all costs, I very much doubt. // But what I find difficult then is, how do you reconcile this government that doesn’t want to change, that’s intransient, that’s imposing this immoral political order on the country and yet your company, Barlow Rand, by the eighties the period of the worst repression which was inside the country - not outside - is the leading local supplier of arms. // I can only repeat that I don’t believe that you can repress people with avionic equipment.

Notes: Mike Rosholt (Barlow Rand); Russel Ally (Truth Commission); Mike Rosholt