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JIM, RichardAge 34 Description We are waiting as are many other people to see what the outcome of that case will be and judgement is expected fairly soon, later in September. And we will decide after judgement has been handed down as to whether we will subpoena those people. They may well apply for amnesty; one would expect them ... Is it correct that the people that beat Stompie were Mrs. Mandela, Katiza, Slash and yourself? // Yes, but there are others. Everybody who was there participated as well as the other members of the Mandela United Football Club. I’ve always tried to wash this sort of thing off me after a hearing by just doing things that I like doing, some exercise, go surfing something like that. It doesn’t really work. I found that and other colleagues of mine have found that they’ve become very stressed, very withdrawn, withdrawn ... The people who took part in the KwaMakhutha killing were not members of the VIP unit, they were members of the offensive unit and they were not involved in a war situation as you earlier described. They attacked a house and they killed 13 people, most of whom were women and children. // Therefore ... Were there cases in which special forces cooperated with the police in eliminating people i.e. killing people in accordance with the plan that you testified to before lunch. // That is correct. // And are those the matters in respect of which you have applied for amnesty? // That is correct. // ... Rick Turner was a teacher and trade unionist in Durban in the early 1970s. He was assassinated in January in 1978. His daughter, Jann is a filmmaker and tonight we show you a film she made about her father’s life and death. But first we go to Bloemfontein, birth place of the African National ... We certainly don’t have a mandate to make any impact on the educational system or the absence of a proper educational system, we simply don’t have the mandate or the finance to do that other than to draw attention to it and to include that sort of material in our report to the government in ... We were round about at the flats when the police came chasing out and they were chasing a group of people and shooting. Certain incidents during [inaudible] told me that we must get out of the way, that we should move to the flats. I ran into one flat and he ran into another one. I heard some ... For me it came as a huge surprise, even to be nominated because there was a long public selection and nomination process. I think 3 or 400 people were nominated by various organizations. I was nominated by the Human Rights Committee and it came as a great surprise that I should have been nominated ... I was one of five brothers and sisters. My parents are devout Catholics. My grandparents immigrated here from Ireland, came here as poor immigrants and I was brought up in a large Catholic family. And myself, my brothers and sisters all went to Catholic schools and I think that’s where I can date ... Okay the question is then did General Malan know about the cross border raids into those three towns which have been mentioned before they took place? // The Defence Force request was that this operation should be executed the second half of April. They approached me, I approached the state ... Let me introduce you to Jann Turner, daughter of the prominent 1970s activist Dr Rick Turner, who was assassinated in 1978. Jann was with him when he died. // Jann, why did you make this film we’re about to show? // Well, it wasn’t really until 1989 when Jacques Pauw first revealed the death ... It’s very difficult for us to make any impact on that lost generation as it were other than to include the stories and the contextual material in our report. Katiza Cebekhulu says he saw Madikizela-Mandela stab Stompie with a shiny object one night but Jerry Richardson had a different version. He said Mommy had ordered him to get rid of Stompie. // I did the same with him. I slaughtered him. I slaughtered him like a goat. // And how did you do that? // ... I found Richard sleeping in the lounge here on the floor. His head was right here, he was shot in the ear and pieces of his skull they were on the floor and some of his brain was on the floor. So I left Richard again, rushed to the bedroom, looking for Tshidiso. I found that Tshidiso’s bedroom ... I found Richard sleeping in the lounge here on the floor. His head was right here. He was shot in the ear and pieces of his skull, they were on the floor and some of his brain was on the floor. So, I left Richard again, rushed to the bedroom looking for Tsidiso. I find that Tsidiso’s bedroom was ... ... outside Stellenbosch. It is here in September 1976 that Ronald Carolissen was shot by police in a period of recurring violence. His brother, Richard Carolissen gave an eyewitness account of the chaotic and brutal circumstances in which his brother ... ... us to go out of the cell. I was taken to cell number 3 in that police station. And I believe it’s after two days that a certain lawyer called Richard Spoor, he was in the firm of Priscilla Janna. Then he asked me, do I know that Sipho has died. I was affected. Then I said I don’t believe ... Sergeant Richard Motasi was a diligent policeman with no record of complaint against him in 11 years’ service, but in September 1984 he was hit on the ear by a Colonel. That started a series of events that eventually led to his death. ... to be used as a political weapon in South Africa. // ‘It was consistent with the patterns of the past. Scores of assassinations remain unsolved. Richard Turner, Matthew Goniwe, Sparrow Mkonto, David Webster, Ruth First and Dulcie September are but a ... |