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ANC campsExplanation ... views are not the neutral views. They are views that address the problems as well. My view was that apartheid will have to go. And in many instances, where we addressed on the orders of South African Police, and the officers in various camps, they emphasised that they should unban the ANC ... joined training camps where we were taught how to act in a military manner, we underwent military training, we did firearm training, arms training, ammunition training, training to teach us how to act when, or react when we drove into a trap with vehicles, how to escape from such a situation. Chris Hani to bring in cadres into the country and also to bring in arms into the country but I never stayed for long periods or I never went to any camps. My training was all done informally by the ... (vi) When I returned to Wembesi after my father's death the area was divided into IFP and ANC camps. The misunderstanding which arose between Mbeki Msamanga, the commander of the ANC in the area, and Mr Teaspoon Mkhize, the chairperson in the area resulting in the ANC being divided into two ... MR BIZOS: From Lusaka, that is right. And we say in paragraph 55, there were no command or operation structures of the ANC in Lubango in 1984. The ANC camps in Angola were all situation in the northern part of the country. Lubango was situated in the southern part of the country. MR VAN DEN BERG: As I understand it, all the PAC training camps were in Tanzania and not in Zimbabwe, do you have any comment on that? MR MBHELE: As we were being attacked, we were not aware that he had been present spying on us when we actually went on our camps. We later discovered that he was actually one of the ANC spies. Furthermore they would also be used for the tracing of ANC and PAC members, because it was possible for them as a result of their association in the camps in Angola and Zambia, to physically identify trained members and to then arrest such members. MR WILLS: Now you say that you had meetings and you also had camps, what happened at these camps? ... After that we did not really know what was happening with him. We then made attempts to reconcile with him so that there would not be these two camps within one organisation. He was not very keen to reconcile with us, instead he started attacking us. When these attacks occurred, we tried to ... MR DE KOCK: Chairperson, their primary value was the identification of ANC and MK members with whom they had been in camps, the identification of these camps and the identification of these terrorists and later evidence in the courts. ... you as one of our young and outstanding commanders. We remember your efficiency and competence, both as a commander and chief of staff, of our camps in Angola. We recall with sheer pride and admiration how you transformed qualitatively the training and administration of these camps. We ... ... he is public enemy number one because of his role in Umkhonto. He was accused of murder and torture against dissident Umkhonto soldiers in Angolan camps when they mutinied against going into battle against Unita rather than the White regime of South ... ... we had to travel lots and lots of kilometres from one camp to the other and on this particular incident, when we were leaving Luanda for one of our camps in the north of Angola, it was a very long journey and we were in a convey and it was a single route in and single route out and the ... MR J MBANE:: Eric Maluleki used to be my instructor in firearms in Kashido Camps, that’s how I know him. ... is not supportive of torture. I reject it. It's wrong. And within my knowledge, if I think back, this issue was raised at times. We were given assurances that regular visits were paid to camps as visits to jails. I can specifically recall that, I think it was when I was already President, where a ... With regard to the period when the Applicant was an instructor at the camps in Angola, it would be wrong to consider granting him amnesty in respect of any of the specific incidents which were committed during that period by MK cadres and which are listed for that period in exhibit 2.1. This is ... ... of Emergency. A friend who had already completed his initial two year stint in the South African Defence Force was expecting to be called up for camps. At the same time people were being shot indiscriminately in the ... MR SIBANYONI: You are also aware that those people who were sort of suspected of being spies, were detained, some of them in camps and the ANC has submitted the names of those people who were suspected spies and some actions taken against them. ... in Mangusi, to some extent do you have any idea of the sort of political tensions that may have existed there? --- I think it was not a strong ANC area, but neither was it a strong Inkatha area. There was a whole history of the Thonga independence movement and the kind of Thonga ethnicity ... |
