MR MOPEDI: The next applicant will be Thulani Richard Mbatha, Mr Chairman.
CHAIRPERSON: Just identify the next person again please.
MR MOPEDI: The next person will be Thulani Richard Mbatha, Mr Chairman.
ADV STEENKAMP: Page 61 of the same bundle, Mr Chairman.
CHAIRPERSON: Mr Mbatha, won't you stand please and give us your full names.
THULANI RICHARD MBATHA: (sworn states)
CHAIRPERSON: Mr Mopedi?
EXAMINATION BY MR MOPEDI: Thank you, Mr Chairman.
Mr Mbatha, you are the applicant in this matter and you are also applying for amnesty, is that correct?
MR MBATHA: Yes, that's true.
MR MOPEDI: Were you also a member of the Self Defence Unit in Lusaka-A?
MR MBATHA: Yes.
MR MOPEDI: If I may ask you, when did you join?
MR MBATHA: I would say early 1993.
MR MOPEDI: You joined early 1993. How old were you in 1993?
MR MBATHA: If I'm not mistaken I was 12 or 13.
MR MOPEDI: You were 12 or 13?
MR MBATHA: I was 12.
MR MOPEDI: Could you explain with reference to specific incidents what you did as a member of the Self Defence Unit?
MR MBATHA: My duty as an SDU member was to clean the weapons or the firearms and we would - I was a pathfinder, we would pave a way for my colleagues prior to any attack. And there is no incident that I took part in.
MR MOPEDI: So in other words if I understand you correctly, you confirm what the last applicant, Simphiwe Godfrey told this forum?
MR MBATHA: Yes, I concur with what he has said.
MR MOPEDI: So you have the same duties as Simphiwe Godfrey Ndlovu?
MR MBATHA: Yes, that's true.
MR MOPEDI: So you are now applying for amnesty?
MR MBATHA: Yes.
MR MOPEDI: Thank you, Mr Chairman, I have no further questions.
NO FURTHER QUESTIONS BY MR MOPEDI
CHAIRPERSON: Thank you, Mr Mopedi. Advocate Steenkamp?
ADV STEENKAMP: No questions, thank you, Mr Chairman.
NO QUESTIONS BY ADV STEENKAMP
CHAIRPERSON: I suppose no re-examination?
MR MOPEDI: No re-examination, Mr Chairman, thank you.
NO RE-EXAMINATION BY MR MOPEDI
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