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A-Team (OFS)Explanation Showing 221 to 240 of 843 First Page•Previous Page 8 •9 •10 •11 •12 •13 •14 •15 •16 Next Page•Last PageMR MANANA: Well yes, I am opposing the application of the two applicants, because what they have advanced to this Commission is not true, rather the evidence that they have advanced to this Commission is not true. And again, they are my children as well. They were growing in front of me and they ... MS THABETE: So are you saying to me yourself and your colleagues, you couldn't form a team and go and investigate in an area that you were familiar with, is that what you are saying to me? MR VISSER: If I said 45, I'm mistaken. His application appears in volume 1 on page 137, Brigadier Schoon's application, it's in volume 1, page 137 and following. Brigadier, is it correct that you have already, in several instances, testified verbally as well as in writing before the ... MR FORTUIN: Is there anyone that you are going to call to confirm that you were a member of the Task Team of the PAC? MR DE KOCK: In the general discussions we spoke of the currency, the monetary currency, counter-surveillance, I also remember that we were told that if we suspected that we were being followed we shouldn't immediately start running because then an entire team would follow you and you'd make ... MR WILLIAMSON: No, Mr Chairman, it isn't incorrect. As I have already said about the so-called final briefing, it was not merely a final briefing in that everybody sat and heard everything. We were gathered in a flat and there were various discussions, there was a briefing by the Brigadier and as ... When the internal supporters of the ANC/SACP alliance were not able to succeed by means of methods we've already mentioned to promote mass participation in the armed struggle then they used intimidation to a great extent. Moderate people in the black townships lived in fear and they were forced ... MR LE ROUX: I was part of a team and we saw it as that and I did not know how many people would die. I thought that the area that we targeted was more an office area and also a sort of a bad neighbourhood. MR VISSER: Ms Miller, I am not going to argue about that, we were not, we are not an investigation team with access to these things, you are. MR DU PLESSIS: Shortly after that, I can remember that Captain Van Zyl came to me and that I informed him that I already knew about it, and that he could proceed and compile a team and gather the necessary information. MR BIZOS: Mr Chairman could I clarify. I have no objection to a version being put to a witness, but we must be told whether it is in - and he can cross examine on it if he so desires - I object to the Affidavit going in in the absence of an assurance that General Erasmus is going to be called and ... MR RICHARD: Now in the nature of things, because you say you're familiar with these things, you would have known that if it were a transmitter there would have been a back-up team listening to the transactions where the deceased was and they would have known where he went. However that may be Mr Chairman, what happened going on to page 136, is Brigadier Piet Goosen was identified as the leader of the operation. Mr Craig Williamson, Major Craig Williamson at the time, was a natural choice because of his background and experience to be part of the team, and other ... MR POTGIETER: I cannot say right now that I knew it but I'm assuming this, that he as a member of the investigating component, which formed a part of the team, would have had this as his task or his duty. However, I must say that Mr du Toit's statement is that he spent a brief time at the security ... MR THOBEJANE: We had a Reconnaissance Unitor a Reconnaissance Team that was a sub-Unit from the main Unit. Its duty wasto gather all the information that might be used or that we might use as theUnit so the Reconnaissance Team during their reconnaissance, they have gatheredsuch information ... MR FIHLA: I am presently with Defence Intelligence,I am part of the collection team under Major General Steenkamp. MR RICHARD: And lower down there was entire rugby team waiting to get on to the bus, did you see the bus? Mr Britz, can you remember whether Wouter Mentz was in the backup team? These are the men who walked right at the back in the operation. MR WAGENER: And that was the legal team under the leadership of Adv Sam Maritz of the Pretoria Bar? MR LE ROUX: Yes Chairperson, we redeployed ourselves with some adaptations. We wanted to cover a larger area as to when the vehicle would stop that we could be able to see it. The vehicle arrived, it stopped, it killed the headlights, we started moving closer. I specifically was behind a wire ... |
