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A-Team (OFS)Explanation Showing 781 to 800 of 843 First Page•Previous Page 35 •36 •37 •38 •39 •40 •41 •42 •43 Next Page•Last PageMR BOTHA: Chairperson, perhaps I could facilitate this for Mr Lalla. The Knoll was under observation, the house in Brickfield was under observation, many other houses were under observation, we were a core group of people who had knowledge, one of the activities of Vula and those people involved, ... MR CORNELIUS: Was there any reason for Mr de Kock and his team to doubt your information or doubt the target which you had identified? MR ROSSOUW: After the incident you returned with the team to the Republic, can you recall whether this took place on the same day or on the following day? MR RAUTENBACH: Mr Chairman, the situation is this, that there was an attempt during the inquest by the investigating team - now if I say there was an attempt by the investigating team, it doesn't mean that, well very few of their attempts were in fact successful, but in trying to locate the ... MR VAN ZYL: That is the case, Mr Chairperson. This statement was prepared by my legal team at that point and this is the evidence that I gave since March 1990. Mr Chairman, it is my submission that Mr Kloppers has made a full disclosure. He has been frank about the severety of the assault and the way in which it happened. Mr Chairman, I would submit that this assault, although very severe and reprehensible, if one approach, armchair approach to that, ... 2. The first attempt of De Kock and his team to abduct Msibi was unsuccessful and they returned to the RSA. The next morning the operation was replanned. General Stadler, Brig Schoon and Brig S.J. Visser waited at the border post at Oshoek whilst De Kock and his members from Vlakplaas as well as ... MRS KOKI: There is the true ANC and the false ANC, because there are two sections of the ANC. These two sections, the other section, they do things which we don't understand. It is this section which used to use my child and use me, but they have severed relationships with me. But this other ... And since that time, when you came to tell us before, our investigating team have been working very hard to try and find out exactly what happened on that day. And we hope that today and tomorrow things will become more clear and you will have answers to some of the questions you have been asking ... Mrs Maurise and I spoke earlier and she said to me that she was not present when her son was shot and asked me to read the report by our investigating team and she will then tell the remainder of the story. I will read it in English but maybe Mrs Maurise can use the headphones to hear it in ... The first Investigation Officer, a Warrant Officer Sipho Mbele, complained that the investigation was not conducted properly insofar as normal procedures and practices on the murder scene were roundly ignored, and his own investigation was interfered with by individuals in the Security Branch. He ... MR LAMEY: And from there then you made statements to the investigating team from the Attorney-General's office. Can you briefly tell the Committee what the circumstances were surrounding the signing of your initial amnesty application? How did this come about? MR DU TOIT: It is possible that I spoke to him, but I cannot recall that I said anything to him regarding a disguise or a beard or anything like that. Usually there were many people on such a scene and the first person that one would speak to would be the demolitions expert, who in this case was ... When I arrived there there was a team of five policemen, of which the head of the policemen was Captain Thlakanya. They continued interrogating me and they realised that I was wearing an ANC T-shirt underneath. That is where things started to be bad. They undressed me and started beating me. ... I’d like to thank the members of the Truth and Reconciliation Commission staff who have preparing here, the statements takers who have been here in advance, for all the team under our logistics officer, Gail van Breda, I am not sure she is in the hall at the moment and all the team that have worked ... The conference had not started, we were preparing for the conference. When I came back I was out casted by the police that were called INKATHA. I - I showed him the - the document, he then said he would speak to his team and that was that. According to Flores at the relevant time he was assigned to the Witbank area for "normal" Vlakplaas operations when he received a request from Lieutenant Chris Rorich of the Witbank Security Branch. Rorich requested Flores and a team of askaris who were working under him in the area to help burn ... MR ROSSOUW: You then mention a number of people, Colonel Victor, Nic Deetlefs, Fleischman, Brits and At van Niekerk. Is it correct that they were members of the investigation team and you don't mean that they actually knew of the operation beforehand? I would like to ask you something, Archbishop. What does one do those that did this to you? I feel that they should also appear before such a panel. I’m referring to these that were in this team, I would like them to say why they did all this. MR MAOLOSI: I would say he was my friend because I knew him very well, he was playing for a soccer team, and I was playing for another, and he was not a friend I would be seen with every time, but I would regard him as my friend, because we did not have any problems. |
