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A-Team (OFS)Explanation Showing 821 to 840 of 843 First Page•Previous Page 35 •36 •37 •38 •39 •40 •41 •42 •43 Next Page•Last PageThen I suggested to Mr Sekanyele that we must go to report the matter to the mine security police and we discussed that. We decided against that, because it was clear that amongst the leadership of the group, some of them were mine security officers, like one whose name is Dhlamini, one of them ... - she was called Mrs Nxumalo, and Mrs Nxumalo's son - she described to me the state of the body. It had had acid poured over the head so there was no skin left on the head. It was just a skull. The body was not decomposed. The mothers thought that the boys had been kept somewhere and then, ... De Kock's legal representative then put it to him: "I understand that, but it seems to me that he had already chosen his team and the destination had been determined?" The answer was "That is correct". MR STEENKAMP: He was part of the Special Investigation Team to investigate certain cases in which you were involved, is that correct? CHAIRPERSON: Because even the name is something that indicates good intentions, I mean peace-makers and yet not much is known about them. We are going to ask our investigating team to try and find out more about these peace-makers. It is common cause, Mr Chairman, that they were members of the state security forces. It is common cause that at some instance some of them were commanded and at one instance one of them was in command of an interrogation team. It is common cause also that, as I have stated before their ... MR VAN JAARSVELD: Chairperson, it was limited to Hechter and Cronje. The Attorney General never approached me afterwards in connection with anything else. On the contrary, he made a request to me in the past couple of days, Dr Pretorius of the Special Investigation Team asked me to help them with ... GEN VAN DER MERWE: In the past we had tried this numerous times, it simply wasn't practically viable. Firstly, one could not place a surveillance team in Lesotho, there wasn't even such a possibility. To surveil persons an a full-time basis involved such a complicated process and one would ... MR MALAN: Mr Friedrich, is it not his evidence that he was in fact part of it all, that he was part of the planning, that he was a member of the team? It wasn't merely that he witnessed the commission of these acts, he was indeed involved in the planning of these acts and he was involved in ... MR ERASMUS: The only people that I know of who were not part of the security police who had to come and work here, were people who were involved with special investigation, for example the investigative team was part of the Security Branch at that stage. At the Security Branch a uniformed ... GEN VAN DER WESTHUIZEN: Yes, I endorse that. I can add that I was part of the team which compiled this document and I'd just like to reiterate that that is my feeling today as well. MR VEYI: I'd like to make an example. If I still remember well when I started going to that place I went with Sergeant Sefuti. We would be there when she was interrogated. Superintendent Coetzee would be the one who was the leader of the team so when we were there everybody that was present ... Used by whom? --- Well, there was a team was in form. That team was in form by the unit. I was one of the team. MS S. BAM: Thank you very much. I would like to congratulate the planners through you for putting me first to speak. I think this is a change of the tradition of the church. But I would also like to remind the committee's planners that we are told that the first human being was in Africa and ... At the time of the incidents the Applicant was a member of the Security Branch of the South African Police. During August he received instructions from his commanding officer to assist in the above two operations under command of Captain David Baker. The objective was to cast suspicion on ... MR KNIGHT: Mr Chairman, if I might just add at this point, this statement that my learned colleague is reading from with regard to Mr Shabalala, Mr Shabalala never signed and denies ever having made, just for the Record. So I don’t, I just wanted to inform the Committee of that. It would come out ... So, I reached South Africa on the 14th of 1991, December. I could not attend the funeral of the deceased, because I was late due to some arrangements in Uganda, but now as the breadwinner by then, appeared to be the breadwinner, because my brother was the elder one. The arrangement was made ... ADV ARENDSE: Mr Chairman this witness' evidence, or his - it was introduced unilaterally by the leader of evidence and by their team. The time it's taken to deal with this witness, with respect, we must be allowed the latitude to do so properly. MR MAZIBUKO: Well, what we did as a Unit firstly, we planned together as a Unit on this attack. After having planned as a Unit on this attack, I personally went for two weekends at the stadium for reconnaissance purposes, where I reconnoitred because there was a soccer team of Policemen who every ... After I contacted the special investigation team and told them I would give them my full co-operation, I handed three containers with weapons which I had buried. Mr de Kock also did know of all the weapons and amongst others there were 5 LMGs, 6 Makarovs and some explosives. |
