AK47

MR TSHABALALA: An AK47.

CHAIRPERSON: Mr Mazibuko, what counsel wants to find out from you is why didn't you fetch the AK47, you were told there they are and by your own estimate there were about 10 at least. Why didn't you fetch one?

"Grenade attack on Inkatha's Wellington Sabelo. AK47 fired at car of his wife as she entered in the driveway, killing her and injuring three children."

So I then went to Botswana and then in Botswana on the borders, I went for my weapon, for my AK47 and then we proceeded into South Africa. I entered the Republic by jumping the fence. I didn't use my passport which I've been using all the way and I proceeded to Bloemfontein to go and report ...

MR PATEL: In addition you claim amnesty for illegal possession of an AK47 and Makaroff pistol and ammunition, do you confirm that?

MR WILLS: Well, in the attack in Richmond you said you were using an AK47. Is that correct?

MR STEYN: Yes that is correct. I do indeed recall that during the incident that evening on the scene after the incident I found an AK47 on the scene.

MR DE KOCK: Yes Chairperson, that was after he had identified a person who were selling AK47's and a person was arrested, he walked in with a bag of AK's in the Johannesburg Sun Hotel and he was caught and with the payment of his claim, it was the first time that I met him, I did not know who he ...

An AK47's barrel protruded from his body, partly. Next to them in the sand was a F1 hand grenade. And I focused my attention on these two people first. I obtained a rope, it is a piece of nylon rope that had been in one of the vehicles, I think it was about five to six metres long.

We learnt this in the Advanced Course. We also learnt about different guns. We learnt about Eastern Block weapons. Those weapons are not used in South Africa. A lot of people don't know about them. If I can be permitted to enumerate the guns that we used, like the AK47 ...

MR NGWENYA: I used to keep weapons such as Scorpions and two AKs, an AK47 as well.

MR NKOSI: When we arrived there at Gamedi, we went inside. Makosonki was armed with an AK47, I, myself had five litre petrol and we had asked for it from one gentleman because we knew what was happening, and the gentleman himself did not ask questions, he just gave us the petrol, because he knew ...

The offences on which you are applying amnesty for are murder, attempted murder, indicate 7 charges, possession of AK47 rifles, rounds of ammunition for AK47, eight magazines and seven mini-limpet mines, Makarov pistol and robbery of a motor vehicle. Are you, have you ever appeared in court, and ...

MR MASEKO: There was one AK47, two 303's, one 308 and one shotgun.

ADV LAMEY: How did the aspect regarding the AK47 come to light?

ADV LAMEY: Do you know that Hashe was interrogated about an AK47?

MR MKWANAZI: It was a series of gunfire, I would not be in a position to count or estimate as to how many times he shot. What I remember he had an AK47 rifle in his possession.

MR POTSANE: Well, in our consignment we had AK47's and ammunition, hand grenades, limpet mines, land mines and RPG 7 Bazuka.

I immediately noticed that there had to have been a very serious shooting incident. Inside the vehicle there were lots of AK47 shells inside the vehicle and also outside the doors which were open. The money, R4½ million, all the money was found in the vehicle as well as firearms.

MR LOWIES: That's not the question, the question is; senior people would get preference to the AK47's, in terms of custom, do you agree?