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AK47Explanation ADV LAMEY: How did the aspect regarding the AK47 come to light? MR MKWANAZI: It was a series of gunfire, I would not be in a position to count or estimate as to how many times he shot. What I remember he had an AK47 rifle in his possession. I immediately noticed that there had to have been a very serious shooting incident. Inside the vehicle there were lots of AK47 shells inside the vehicle and also outside the doors which were open. The money, R4½ million, all the money was found in the vehicle as well as firearms. MR POTSANE: Well, in our consignment we had AK47's and ammunition, hand grenades, limpet mines, land mines and RPG 7 Bazuka. MR STEYN: Yes that is correct. I do indeed recall that during the incident that evening on the scene after the incident I found an AK47 on the scene. MR LOWIES: That's not the question, the question is; senior people would get preference to the AK47's, in terms of custom, do you agree? and Robbery in all cases where terrorist weapons were being used. Weapons such as AK47's, Makorov and MR NKONYANE: I had an AK47. MR WILLS: Well, in the attack in Richmond you said you were using an AK47. Is that correct? MR SIBEKO: In both incidents, were you carrying a weapon or an AK47 which you used? MR BOTHA: During August 1986 an incident took place where a spouse of an IFP council member was killed and three of his children were injured in an attack with AK47 assault weapons and hand grenades. MR NGWENYA: I used to keep weapons such as Scorpions and two AKs, an AK47 as well. MR SAMUELS: Sorry, Mr Chairman, I think I've got to ask - the offences that this application applies for are in fact three offences. They all relate to the same incident, that is the kidnapping, the murder of Mr Zulu and possession of an AK47. So I then went to Botswana and then in Botswana on the borders, I went for my weapon, for my AK47 and then we proceeded into South Africa. I entered the Republic by jumping the fence. I didn't use my passport which I've been using all the way and I proceeded to Bloemfontein to go and report ... ... not my security as such, but the security of other MK cadres too. Then he confirmed that he had arranged with Tabiso Radebe and apparently an AK47, not an AK47 but Stechkin would be ... MR PATEL: In addition you claim amnesty for illegal possession of an AK47 and Makaroff pistol and ammunition, do you confirm that? The offences on which you are applying amnesty for are murder, attempted murder, indicate 7 charges, possession of AK47 rifles, rounds of ammunition for AK47, eight magazines and seven mini-limpet mines, Makarov pistol and robbery of a motor vehicle. Are you, have you ever appeared in court, and ... MR RADEBE: When Mbuso was about to be fetched I was fetched at my home with Stick's kombi. It was myself and Langa, Dingaan. We went to fetch Mbuso. I had a firearm, an AK47. We took Mbuso from Mkwaie Street. He was already assaulted when we went to Mkwaie, when we arrived there. MR KHUMALO: 9mm and an AK47. CHAIRPERSON: Mr Mazibuko, what counsel wants to find out from you is why didn't you fetch the AK47, you were told there they are and by your own estimate there were about 10 at least. Why didn't you fetch one? |