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AK47Explanation Is there any particular weapon on which, you know, specific emphasis was placed or not? --- There were two firearms which had much emphasis. These were the ones that we were supposed to use in most cases. It was the G3 rifle which was Czechoslovakian made and an AK47. During the attack however, I was armed with an AK47 rifle which (indistinct). It was given to me by Soli and I returned it to him immediately after the attack. Only two grenades were thrown during the attack and no shots were fired. ADV PRIOR: In paragraph 14 you said that Small Baby was armed with an AK47, is that correct? MS LOONAT: Mr Chairperson thank you, but he had given me a list which he's confirming. He had AK47, two AK 47's and ammunition, he had one pistol, Makarov, together with ammunition, he had 18 pairs of camouflage uniforms, hand grenades. MR NHLAPO: It was an AK47. "A usually reliable source saw during the first week of December 1985, an unknown number of AK47 guns and unidentified round metal objects, probably landmines, in the possession of a known ANC terrorist in Lesotho. The terrorist stated that he and three other cohorts would go to Bloemfontein and ... ... to go, to come to them and take their arms, because their arms were here, so mine was just to go and take the arms. I would not do that having an AK47 at the very same time, so it was not possible for Linda to do all those things, to take the guns and even to point them, because we only had one ... MR RORICH: Certainly yes. There was an AK47 gun, an AKM at everyone of the bodies. The order was given to Warrant Officer Pienaar who discharged the weapons and there were two carry bags within which there was a Russian F1 type Eastern Block handgrenade. MR KHANYILE: We were armed with AK47 rifles. I was carrying an HMC. ... at the moment, and there between me, Ernest Ramadite, George Mathe and Mensday, we went somewhere towards Mafikeng where we received training of AK47's, hand grenade and limpet ... the flower bed and when the first man wasabout five metres away from me, he aimed a pistol at me and when Mr Thobejanestood up, I saw that he had an AK47. I then stood still, I first wanted torun and then the person with the pistol said I should stand still. As I wasstill thinking what I was ... MR MOTATA: Just explain to us, we know from the evidence we have heard that operators used to carry guns and those would be issued by the Commander Regional or Central, but they used to carry guns and in this respect AK47's, is that so? ... later I wanted to know from Hechter how the action had gone and he told me that van Vuuren had hit a window of a house out with the barrel of an AK47 gun and that he, Hechter, had thrown the bomb through the hole, upon which they had run away. We then drove back to Pretoria. I cannot say with ... MR SHAYI: Mr Chairman, as I indicated yesterday that on page 13 of the bundle, and page 15 of the bundle, mention is made on page 13 of three AK47 firearms and nine shotguns, and on page 15, of two AK47's and several pistols and several revolvers. It is my submission that when the application was ... MR LESHOMO: I do not recall, it was one AK and 9mms, I don't know how many of them were there, and the 3.8s. I do not recall how many of them, but among the weapons there was an AK47, the 9mms and the 3.8. They told me that they were looking for me because they needed a spade, they were actually referring to an AK47. I had to go and fetch this AK47. When I arrived there, he was already shot with a pistol on his head. I realised that this person was already dying, therefore I decided to do nothing. MR BOOI: Yes, all of us were armed. I was armed with Soviet made automatic pistol, five ammunition magazines, two hand grenades. Lincoln was armed with an AK47, Wiseman was armed with a Makarov pistol, Soviet made and Mabuya was also armed with a Makarov pistol, Soviet made. MR MBHALATI: I accompanied Sililo. At that time I happened to confirm to Sililo that Shingange was the person whom we were looking after and one other thing is that I also carried the bag which contained an AK47 which Sililo used to fire at Shingange. 14 Unlawful possession of AK47 ammunition. CHAIRPERSON: Is it your evidence that since 1992 up to the time when you committed this offence, you were in continual possession of this firearm being an AK47? |