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askariExplanation MR VERMEULEN: It all depends on what type of operation - they could have been issued with anything. But Aubrey wasn't an askari, he was a member of the Force. ... course they found Ndaba. At the time Col Taylor was present and it is perhaps relevant to note, Mr Chairman, that Mr Ndaba had been arrested by an askari, Mr Vusi Ninela. It later appeared that another askari was also involved in the arrest, but nothing much turns on that. The fact of the ... MR DE KOCK: Yes, and I can refer you to somebody like Mabotha, that will still come, I don't want to discuss it fully at the moment. There is also the incident of Brian Ncqulunga, who was an askari at first and later became a member of the Force. MR LAMEY: Nzimande, was he an askari? ... you, that you believed that from the time you had departed from Leeuspoort, let us rather go there, that you could still turn him as a source or an askari, do I understand you ... "I instructed on of our Askaris who worked under my command to contact Bhila under the guise of an ANC cadre, that the ANC had instructed him to leave the country and that he should meet this Askari at a certain place. ... submission that I want to make on the facts and it relates to the evidence that Mr Mfalapitsa gave in respect of his motive and his position as an Askari. He had no difficulty in coming to this hearing and saying "because I was a supporter of Apartheid, I was not really an enemy of the ANC, ... MR LAMEY: Then I would like to ask you, is it correct that Mr Sedibe afterwards came to work as an askari at Vlakplaas? MR NYOKA: Fair enough. You say you met Monde one day who said he was being trained by Sipho Pungola as an askari. When did he say this to you? MR HATTINGH: Now Mr Radebe, you were never an askari, you were a member of the South African Police. ... for a while and then handed to the Security Police. He was detained at Brits and attempts were made to persuade him to become an askari. This failed. The police then tried to obtain evidence in order to charge him. This also failed because he would not make any ... CROSS-EXAMINATION BY MR NYOKA: Just one Mr Chairperson Mr Ndzotoyi, when an askari informer was found by any of the structures that you mentioned, what was the procedure taken to deal with such a person? But still you knew that you had these people, this Askari’s working with you from or rather this informers because you knew there was informers, you had this informers working with you on this case. You put to him that this Askari had returned and he was supplying information to you regarding Vlakplaas. It this correct? ... We find Applicants' version in this regard wholly unpersuasive, that this option would necessarily have led to Mfalapitsa being exposed as an askari. In fact, Applicants do concede that the group could have been charged and convicted of the unlawful possession of arms, ammunition and ... MR LAMEY: Mr Snyman also specifically refers in his application to the involvement of an askari. Is it possible that an Askari was mentioned? ... and you describe in broad terms the type of training, the type of operations and in general terms the manner in which you were utilised as an askari at Vlakplaas, is that ... CHAIRPERSON: Because I remember the words at one of the hearings of one of the askaris, saying that when he was a member of the ANC, of the MK, he was a soldier with a conscience and then when he was turned and was an askari, he was a soldier without a conscience. So that doesn't mean when he was ... misunderstanding through all the coded communication of "problems" and "solving of problems". It seems as if the deceased might indeed have been an askari and if indeed there might have been a plan to have his former colleagues to influence him, or to work on him. All this however would amount ... CHAIRPERSON: Was this true with every askari you had at Vlakplaas, Mr de Kock? They had betrayed you once and now they had turned? |