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Operation Zero ZeroExplanation Showing 261 to 280 of 1009 First Page•Previous Page 10 •11 •12 •13 •14 •15 •16 •17 •18 Next Page•Last Page... Director of Research and Development in your Head Office on the 1st of October 1988. Would that be the position, even subsequent to that with the operation of Project Coast, that you exercised personal control over Brigadier ... ... meeting McCaskill, and remember now he comes to the post office, he says to you "There are uninvited guests at the house, we have to call off the operation", you say to him "This isn't a time to pull out", you send him away, he comes back, what is it, half an hour, and hour ... ... the meeting had just ended and had been attended by Warrant Officer Fivaz, Chris de Jager and Tony Fernandez. He was informed by Fivaz that an operation had been planned to eliminate a member of the Pan Africanist Congress. The reason why this person would have to be killed, was because he ... Mr Rorich, with this sort of operation that you executed there, would it have been at all possible to determine whether or not there were so-called innocent persons in the places that you blew up? "All the operations that Rafiq undertook and that are referred to in his statement, were discussed at length with me prior to his embarking thereon. Rafiq reported back to me after each operation, with the exception of the CR Swart Square explosion. I in turn reported to Rashid. MR MTHWANA: No, listen. I know that there was a vigilante group in operation, but I do not know how Zwe was killed because at the time I was in prison. MS LOONAT: Please bear with me one moment. Mr Chunene, on page 10 of the Bundle, point 3, you say that, the last line of point 3 that you were not the Commander, but you were the one who planned the operation, is that correct? Van Jaarsveld appeared at the hearing as an implicated person. He denied even taking part in the operation. Significantly though, upon asked to say why he said he did not participate therein, he said that if he did, he would have remembered it as he had a very good memory. He could not remember ... MR DU TOIT: Chairperson, if the person escaped from the detention of members in the Witwatersrand we would write a separate report or it would happen in co-operation with the Eastern Transvaal and then I wouldn’t visit the scene but it would be another senior officer from that specific department. Do you think that you recovered completely after the shooting incident? --- No because it is bad weather, when it is cold and raining, I experience pain and I get told that the inside of where I had the operation, swells up. MR LAMEY: How long was this before the first Coin operation? Then I alighted at Kalafong. They were together with me to accompany me. When we arrived there she was in Ward 9. She had already undergone an operation, but they could not assist her immediately with the wounds that she received. They took her out of the ward and to the Intensive Care Unit. ... ... orders were explicitly to aim the shots at such a height that no risk would be posed to life or limb inside the house. The intention of the operation as well as Applicant's orders were clearly not to kill or harm any of the occupants of the house. The shots fired by Applicant were ... MR JANSEN: Something else which needs to be placed in context, you say, referring to the function which Minister Vlok attended, that he congratulated you on the operation of Cosatu House. Cosatu House, was it mentioned by name by the minister? MR PIENAAR: Chairperson, there were letters where terrorists were killed in conflict with the police, which was only necessary to get the commander of that operation, to obtain his statement and to hand it in, which I in any case did not do, I tried to investigate it as thoroughly as possible. ... in a situation where they were arrested by the Botswana Police, because you must know that I did not have approval from anyone to execute this ... MR ROSSOUW: On page 16, if I may just refer you to the top of page 16. You state there that you were a Sergeant and a subordinate at Vlakplaas during 1989, with this operation, that was the rank that you occupied? - In order to carry out the operation he requested that Joe Mamasela, who was at that time based in the North West area, be brought to Durban. This was done; Mamasela was released and sent to Durban to be part of the squad; MR KOOPEDI: Now did you gain anything personally, that is perhaps financially or materially, were you paid for having taken part in this operation? MR BOOYENS: And is it further correct, as you have already testified, that the decision to eliminate such a person and the decision to continue whatsoever with the operation, was not within your control? |
