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people's warExplanation CHAIRPERSON: If you require a little more time I am prepared to stand down to enable you to consult the people. MR LAX: Who were these three people? At first blush it would appear that the applicant killed the people in revenge for his mother's death. However, on the evidence as a whole, and having regard that the applicant had to flee his home and go into hiding for fear of his life since he was wanted, his home and brother's shop where he ... 8. Malicious damage to the house of the people mentioned under 7 and the burning of Alet Schoon's car. MR MSIMANGO: I was at Checkers Tavern, drinking. While we were drinking we heard gunshots outside and then we tried to hide ourselves. There was no place for me to hide myself because there were many people in the tavern, so I stood next to the door and then Johannes appeared. MRS WALTERS: My husband was a victim in the Church Street bombing as already mentioned earlier. It happened in 1983. As far as we know 19 people died and more than 200 people were injured. My husband was seriously injured that night. PRETORIA HEARING TRC/GAUTENG It was that very, very difficult but let me deal with the work situation. On the second or so day on Robben Island in the Agricultural Team that was under the command of a man called Piet Kleynhans, I was one of those people who had to push a wheelbarrow and in pushing it because we were dumping ... MR BOTHA: Is this an all inclusive list or is it that you may be mistaken about the names of some of the people and where you incorrectly are nominating people who were present and that you have omitted persons who were indeed present? The Amnesty Committee is of the opinion that the families of the deceased referred to in Counts 5, 6, 7 and 8 and the people that were injured referred to in Counts 9 and 10 and Gary Atkinson, the co-owner and manager of the Heidelberg Tavern are victims in relation to the incident and they are ... MR MORUPISI: Our intention was not to kill these people, it was to take these people and bring them back to the community where they stayed because they were not staying in Bekkersdal, they were staying in Carltonville. MR VISSER: That included that he came to Pretoria on a particular day to speak to Brigadier Cronje and that he was introduced to two people, one he couldn't remember the other one was Captain Hechter and thirdly that you were present at a meeting where Roos discussed the problems relating to ... Then at seven o' clock we left with my husband. We went at the 16th, the way they directed us. We found many people on the street. They were looking at, they were surprised. When we arrived there we saw one policeman who was standing in one of the houses. That house was riddled with bullets ... MR NGWENYA: Chairperson on the 3rd of January 1987 we were from the funeral of Comrade Joel and Bhumgame Radebe. Yes, we came to agreement that there are certain important people who were important in the opposition that was ...(indistinct) our fellow comrades. We should kill them. Unfortunately ... Norman does not stay at home. He comes now and again. They called him and requested his ID. They then said you are a member of the Dodo family. He said yes. They then said they want guns. He said he does not know anything about guns. They beat him up. They beat him up, threw him into the ... MR MSIZA: On the 21st in 1985, the 21st of November, there was a stay-away action in Mamelodi in connection with the rent issue. All Mamelodi's people had not gone to work because we wanted to discuss the rent issue, but all the residents decided that we were going to the office. Before people ... MS SEROKE: Do you know those people who did that because in your statement you talked about Mampati and Mabelo. These people went to attack. It was the two Applicants and one Mtangwenyawo. The first Applicant knocked at the door. The deceased opened the door, the second Applicant then fired a shot at him. After that they all left and sent back to Luthuli's house. MR MDLULWA: There was a lot of confusion, full of people, I cannot remember who else was there. During this shoot-out there was a pandemonium, the others were crying on the other side as we were also returning fire, we also had to save them, try to remove them and try to calm them down. ADV VISSER: And the identification of the three people which could eventually be done, how was that done? knew that there was a need to attack a farmer in order to pursue our struggle, the operation. Mr Fourie, as I have said, the people that were with knew him and we went into his house. |
