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people's warExplanation MS COLERIDGE: Yes, thank you Chairperson. The first applicant on the roll today Chairperson, is Mr Mamphaga. I just want to inform the Commission that the following people are implicated people and that we've also been informed by the applicant that these persons, Mr Steve Kumba, his Commander, ... agreed that the firearms would be purchased in Maputo. The three persons was instructed that they should resist any arrest and should not voluntarily surrender the firearms even if it meant having to shoot and kill people in the process. The party left on the Wednesday before the incident ... MR MOSIA: That is before the operation because he was arrested and then he received bail, then he came to my house and informed about that particular case. That he was arrested together with unknown people who were policemen, then I was surprised. Please would you just wait for a moment so that the interpreters can continue. Right, please just start again. --- I was staying with my friend talking in my house. When we went out, about just a short distance from the corner, it was a little bit dark, we were not able to see clearly. We saw ... The committee is of the opinion that Gerbrecht Salomina Van Wyk and/or her dependants, as also the people injured, are victims in relation to the incident and they are accordingly referred to the committee on Reparation and Rehabilitation in terms of Section 22(1) of the Act. house and I went towards the tarred road, that is the main road because I thought there was transport and my intention was to go to the hostel. I stood for quite a long time there waiting for the taxi and I saw there was some violence. There was absolutely no calm. At that time a youth appeared ... You probably know from seeing television about previous hearings, that in other places where we’ve been, the members of the Truth and Reconciliation Commission have gone to one town and asked people from all the surrounding areas to come them. This time when we realised what long distances people ... We went to the government mortuary. I was the first to get in and they said can you identify him among the five people? And I found him there. He was among the five dead people. His cheek didn't have the skin. When we left for home to prepare for the funeral. And after the funeral the police ... 2. Amnesty is GRANTED in respect of the murder of an unknown person and the attempted murder of an unknown number of people, all being supporters of the UDF/ANC at the Esikhomplazi Shop at or near Ermelo during 1990. The police was shooting at the people and I didn't manage to survive, I was also shot with two pelletS that ultimately made me fall. While I was still on the floor I heard another two shots and they went straight into my leg MMABATHO HEARING TRC/NORTH WEST Patrick thank you very much for telling us about your story. There might be other people on the panel who would like to ask you some questions, but we are very aware that it’s - it’s very difficult and it’s painful and we want to make it as easy as possible for you. MR BRITZ: He only told me that there were problems with the operation and that we had to go to Middelburg to go and meet people there. CHAIRPERSON: We welcome you gentlemen from Berlin. You look angry as if you are about to fight. May the Digeni people travel safely. We will hand over to Tiny Maya who is going to lead evidence on behalf of the Commission. When they arrived they kicked me on the spot. At about 7 o'clock they took me to another office, where there was a huge guy who cross-questioned me, asking me whether I know I am apprehended. I told him I do not why I am apprehended or arrested because I never did anything wrong. And he said ... MR KHUBHEKA: I was in possession of a 9mm short, it was myself as well as Mfanafuthi, Mr Ngwenya, the two of us had firearms. When we got there, the door was open and the people were sitting around the table. That is when we pointed the firearms at them and told them the reason for our visit, we ... "I, David Solomon Simelane, wish to make the following statement as requested by the Amnesty Committee of the TRC. I am a co-applicant for the amnesty of the killing of the two people in Mamelodi. I have read the statement of Christopher Mnisi, and confirm the contents thereof where reference is ... As it is, a number of applicants who are not in custody, have not yet been heard because preference is being given to people who are in custody. DR ALLY: So you do not know if on this day that the police were actually looking for your son or that the people who shot him may have known that this was your son? CHAIRPERSON: Well I did not watch television this morning and I have not seen that report. The press that I have read seem to have reported the matter with some accuracy and the purpose, as I understand it of the agreement, it was an agreement yesterday, was to enable these people to be notified ... MRS MATHEBULA: It was in 1986, in May on the 12th. We were going to the cemetery. The proceeding was normal on our way to the cemetery. There was no problem at all. While we were at the cemetery the ceremony was already done and then we were told that the elderly people should go, and I ... |
