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people's warExplanation My submission is that the victim might have scars, but that does not necessarily mean that those scars were occasioned by the applicant. On his own admission, that is the victim, he has been assaulted by a number of people, but all the people that assaulted him over the years, caused only minimal ... I was aware that the attempted abduction of persons from Swaziland was illegal, I accept that the killing of these persons was illegal and throughout I was aware that, where arrests be executed, that the chances were great that these persons would be armed and that they would resist. I then ... MR NYAWUZA: Mr Mabuza, I seem to be having a problem here because we're having a situation on this particular day where a police officer is going to be attacked way before the thought of killing the deceased comes to mind, you are attacking people of the same stature, both are police officers, but ... MR HUGO: And you then ask this honourable Committee to give you amnesty for amongst others fraud and the illegal possession of ammunition, defeating the ends of justice, damage to property, possible conspiracy to murder unknown people in Botswana and any other delict or crime that could have ... People believed Mngoma’s house was empty. Another boy with a red jersey went to the front door. The next minute I heard a shot going off. Shots were fired continuously. I saw a little boy lying near the gate. I say a girl crawling across the road. The next moment, policemen came out of the ... MS MAYA: In your statement you give detail that he was killed by people who were members of two organizations. Could you give us the details ? The sisters told me that they are going to do this and that. My body is scrap, it is not the same as before, the whole body. Those people who were shooting me, I don't know them. I am not able to identify them. They said they have arrived at the hospital. I did not know what they were going to ... DR ALLY: Mr Msibi, you say there were five people on this van? The PAC regarded the killing of Amy Biehl as a mistake committed by young people who were misguided. They nevertheless supported the application for Amnesty. MR NONGENA: We were 17 people here in town who got arrested. We were going to attack boers in the charge office. I was one of the leaders of that group. The boers were treating us badly at the time. When we arrived in the charge office, the gate was too small. I was one of the people who ... MR BORAINE: It is a very sad story of what happened in many townships during the height of the conflict when people were necklaced and this is the experience you have had and you have come to tell us about it. At about 20 to eight, when I was still in the house, one of his friends, Mandla Sithole who worked with him came and said there is a problem. There was violence in Thembisa. Rufus was one of the people who was in that violence. There was a company car hi-jacked. Rufus went there and when he ... PROFESSOR MEIRING: Mrs Ndlebe, thank you for coming. We have heard so many stories today about the same event, about that fateful night, the vigil, the massacre, the people involved. And now you have come and you have brought your daughter-in-law Sebongele with you. Will you please relax and tell ... We very - we very happy that - at least you are still able to have come and to come and repeat the story that you have told many times, but it was very important to get you here today, because behind you - seated in the first two or three rows are the next of kin, the family of people that was ... the liberation of our country and for our people, but he got ill treatment while they were in the custody of the police. We thank you for coming forward so that you can tell the Commission and the country as a whole. The main aim of the Commission is to when you tell your story so that the whole ... He said that there were no riots, they were just toyi-toying. It was not all the people from the township, it was only a small group because we are two groups in the township. It was only kids. Then the police came, then Flemming shot me. I was actually shot by Flemming, my son said. Then my ... It is common cause that the Applicant and five youths were charged and convicted in respect of the above offences. The Applicant, who was the leader of the group, was sentenced to death but the sentence was commuted to 18 years imprisonment. The Applicant testified that he, at the age of ... For the sake of convenience and reasons that will become apparent as we traverse the evidence in this matter, we intend to commence our decision with the Fidelity Guards Depot incident in which both Applicants were involved. Before we do so, we need to briefly deal with the question of the ... MR DU PREEZ SMIT: Yes, there may have been other people there who I cannot recall. MR BLACK: Mr Alset, you've heard that the applicants are, that is all the people who testified during the week, are asking for amnesty in respect of that incident. |
