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people's warExplanation MR NEL: Now if we may move on to paragraph 10. Immediately you say there that originally you were under the impression that four people were killed, but having heard the evidence and having read the other applications, you realised that only three members, or three people were in fact killed in ... ADV DE JAGER: Ja, perhaps if he could listen before he starts giving evidence. I don't know whether it's been explained to him, if he didn't commit any offence and if he wouldn't admit that he associated himself with the commission of an offence, he can't get amnesty because we can only give ... When the deceased walked out the meeting broke down in chaos as all the people there were shouting that she must be killed for refusing to leave the village. The meeting elected certain people to carry out the killing. These were David Nkoma, L. Sekgobela, Mpoya Erick Sekgobela and the Applicant. ... REV XUNDU: Did you perhaps inquire who the Ama-Afrika people were? MR MIYA: We said we were going to accompany him and show him a shortcut towards Kweseni. A group of people appeared, they searched him and he was in possession of an IFP membership card. They took him with and we went back. After about three or four days, I do not remember clearly, my wife was going to work. She usually would leave earlier than me. She used a taxi. My wife left me at home, going to work. Unfortunately that day, that taxi would not let her get in. She was left behind. She then walked. People ... Smiles tried to explain why he made this statement. He said that he didn't trust the people of the TRC who visited him and requested a statement from him. During his evidence he often explained that he didn't reveal the full truth in his statement of the 27th September 1993 because he didn't want ... DR RANDERA: Good morning to you and to your family member. You are 38 years old now and you have also come to tell us about what happened on 18th June 1976. I think we should just remind ourselves that that was two days after June 16th, the uprising that took place in Soweto that is now an ... He, however, remembers that in some instances the people laid charges and dockets were opened. These dockets have since been destroyed. He stated that when a docket was opened against a member of the police force it would go to a certain section where there was a retired Brigadier. He ... MR DE KOCK: Mr Chairperson, I wasn't there at that stage but I wouldn't have been surprised. Out of my experience, the wound was not such a nature that he would have died from it. We did go to the houses, we did get the detonators and the weapons, so there was no reason to attack this person ... The interpreters found that - unfortunate a bit difficult to hear. If - if the Commissioners could assist the victim. We’ve missed that last answer from the person. I’m going to ask - I’m going to ask you to perhaps - with Paul’s help - just move a little bit closer to the mike because people ... MR DU RANDT: After the Council Meeting I did go into the hall where the prayer hour had been held where my wife was still chatting to some people. CHAIRPERSON: He told you to consider the establishment of an arms cache so that this would serve as a reason to attack people or property in Botswana? ... receiving the death sentence. And we can’t know that, but maybe that was part of his objective in the evidence that he did give. And perhaps afterwards I could take a little more to Ms Lucas about what advocate Michael Donen told me about this ... MS MANYI: No, but one was a white policemen from Le Granse. Then they asked whether we were the people related to Vuyani and we said yes. MR MMAKOU:: I wasn't at home by then, I was at work. My son and daughter came to tell that they received a message from Kanya House, telling them that Monageng has been killed by a bomb that blasted in Manzini in Swaziland and then I returned home with them and then I contacted Kanya House and I ... In 1991 again the, my mother was barred from entering. The case, well I might not say the, the right name. Mr Ntai was responsible for the case. After that we were told that all the people involved with the victims were seen and we would like to address this to the mother that we are not going ... CHAIRPERSON: Right, you were amongst the people who took him to the offices at Mkwaie and as you have just stated you assaulted him, what else happened whilst you were still there or what happened in your presence? CHAIRPERSON: Would it be your submission therefore that though the order was for the killing of Mr Tiledi, that your client should have foreseen the possible injury or even death of the people who were inside the shop, that being Mimi Matsani and Boy Mokoena? MR SMIT: And how many people were you when you went to rob the Ormonde police station? |
