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people's warExplanation MR SMIT: And how many people were you when you went to rob the Ormonde police station? MR NAZO: I stayed for a month, but one Sunday when the Boers were beating us certain people cried. We were then released on Monday. MR HATTINGH: Yes and after his departure there were still some of the Witbank people in the vehicle who were busy with the deceased. MR WILLIAMS: Now Mr Mbelo, I want to ask you, before you filled in your application for amnesty did you discuss this particular incident with any of the people that were involved in this incident? MR VAALTYN: There was chaos all over. The police were all over the area. There was shooting all over, the police were shooting at people. see anything. There were other four people who actually took me home. MRS MHLABANE: During the year 1985 in June on the 10th, it was round about half past seven in the morning. I was on my way to work. Many people were in the street going up and down because there was a strike. But I was waiting for the taxi because I was supposed to report at eight at work. Some ... I would like all the people who gave evidence this morning to stand up so that we can thank all of them. 1. The murder of three people, to wit, Peter Schroeder, Shirley Ethnè Brummer and James Tsemane; The service started at two o' clock. When a speaker from the Mandela Release Campaign was on the floor, Mr Nhonhonho, who was in command of the police, Ciskeian Police at that time, addressed us saying that he knows that the youth was very strong. He asked the people to stop the youth not to ... DR RANDERA: Good morning to you and to your family member. You are 38 years old now and you have also come to tell us about what happened on 18th June 1976. I think we should just remind ourselves that that was two days after June 16th, the uprising that took place in Soweto that is now an ... The interpreters found that - unfortunate a bit difficult to hear. If - if the Commissioners could assist the victim. We’ve missed that last answer from the person. I’m going to ask - I’m going to ask you to perhaps - with Paul’s help - just move a little bit closer to the mike because people ... As we were guarding the township and we were watching the people who pretended to be politicians, yet they were criminals, so we tried to protect the neighbours, the community against such people. We also advised the people to avoid travelling during the night, because the police used to fire ... CHAIRPERSON: We are now going to call on Mr Sandi to call people. After I got out of jail, I live in fear. I do not want to be with anyone. I did not understand at my age that I was not a criminal as I was detained - I thought a criminal. Then people would explain to me that when you are actually detained - you are not being charged of any criminal offence. I ... CHAIRPERSON: Would it be your submission therefore that though the order was for the killing of Mr Tiledi, that your client should have foreseen the possible injury or even death of the people who were inside the shop, that being Mimi Matsani and Boy Mokoena? CHAIRPERSON: The defensive one would have been - you were of the opinion that they would have killed the people handling them? With regard to the incident which took place at Mazabekweni, we are of the opinion that there is insufficient evidence to link the Applicant to the killings which he heard off over the radio. There is no evidence that the persons killed included the two people who shot at the Applicant and his ... Thank you very much. There is more room, but I think the people outside, Thembeka if you could just tell the people outside there is more room and as soon as the witness is done with her testimony, they can be invited in, but while someone is giving testimony I don't think it is proper for people ... MR NDLOVU: Yes, I regret because I went to Mozambique to fetch firearms and because one gun can kill many people. |
