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people's warExplanation MR CORNELIUS: And the instruction was, it's also common cause, to go and kill these people, is that correct? MR MOGANEDI: I will start by what happened to me in Mutatema when I was injured. We left Jane Furse going to Mutatema to a funeral. We also wanted to go and look for a combi which was stolen. When we arrived in Tafelkop where our comrades were killed we found the combi and it was driven by those ... We were there in the bedroom, we couldn’t see what was happening because we’re in the bedroom. And we were there for a time until it was late, it was after sunset when we went out. And we couldn’t see my sister - we were the only people in the house. In the passage we saw some fire, then the ... Just behind my house I heard people making a noise, saying that there were policemen. I went out to look, then I saw my own child, I went there. ... they were continuing with normal classes. So when we arrived at Imakilata some of the people within the group were shouting obscene things towards the nuns and so on and Julian and I decided to leave. On our way back, it was in Bats Road, they were erecting barricades and someone who ... MR MASINA: We fixed an appointment with people who were based in Botswana. We sent our agent recruiter to whom we had given a letter to take to the people in Botswana. He came back with a written response giving us the go ahead in the elimination of Mr Lukhele. MR MOGAPI: Mr Viljoen is not right when he says many people were armed. When we arrived, it was - it was a lot of people, it was chaotic and the taking of the money happened in a very short time. I think he thought there might have been many people, yet it was only one person who had a firearm. CHAIRPERSON: Before we commence this morning, gentlemen, there are one or two matters that I would like to deal with and I would like to make it clear, we haven't pre-judged the issues in any way, but have you applied your minds to the question of the real relevance, as to whether somebody who is ... MR MANTHATA: Ngoako Ramalepe was an SRC president at Motcheche College of Education in 1985. One day in the area of Gabane where there was a youth march organized by the youth in Gabane. At the end of the march during that day, the policemen appeared and they came to approach the people who were ... MR KHWEZA: You say Bobbie was with two other people. Do you know who were they? MR KHUMALO: I will say that at that time, I was staying at the offices in Ulundi. Mhlanduna arrived with others and he asked if there are people, or whether there were people who wanted to go to Claremont to Mr Yamile's house and guard there because the situation was quite bad. DR RANDERA: I would like to say that there are people here today who have come to make statements. If there are, please if you can go through that entrance at any time during the day of over the next three days. Statement takers are present and will be able to take your statements today and over ... JUDGE DE JAGER: Why do you say he practised a bad medicine, what did he do that was so bad? Because some people are doing good things, some bad, what did he do that you considered to be bad medicine tradition? MR BOOYENS: Did you then give the radio signal that the people were being led in? DR BORAINE: The next witness to appear before the Commission is Cornish Mmeko Makhanya and I would be grateful if he would come forward. Mr Makanya thank you very much for coming, you've had a long wait as well and we have had to rearrange the programme because of different people coming at ... ... regards to my child. She should be cared for. What kind of help can she be offered in this life? And the people who shot at her should come forward and they should tell us the reasons why they shot at my daughter and maybe I will have peace. I will stop there. Thank ... MR MONAKALI: I was in a boxing tournament in 1981, fifth of June. This boxing tournament was in David Mama High School, NU1. That proceeded well. On the morning of the sixth of June Mr Mlandu, that I know well from the neighbourhood, got into the school hall and reprimanded us for making noise. ... mourning or during mourning. Then I asked as to when my father was going to be buried because I knew that if a person died he was supposed to be buried and my mother told me that we were still going to look for my father's corpse. On the following Friday my mother told me that we should go to my ... MR HATTINGH: Were there no people in the houses or buildings who might have seen him? (ii) Whether the fact that the arsonists later discovered that there were people in residence is responsible for the lacuna in the information admitted; |
