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people's warExplanation (ii) Whether the fact that the arsonists later discovered that there were people in residence is responsible for the lacuna in the information admitted; COORDINATOR: This morning the third and last day of the hearing in Cradock I am going to read the list of people who are going to be here today in the Truth and Reconciliation Commission. I'm going to read this list as the people are going to be up here before you. I just want to clarify that ... MR HATTINGH: You accepted that were not people in the building. MR LOOTS: It was so that we were approximately 20 or 25 people who came together. DR RANDERA: Maybe, whilst we’re deciding people can just take a stand up and ...... I asked for his clothes which they wouldn't give to me. I then went home. Then I told people there that they had told me when to have his funeral. Thank you Chairperson if I may I then ask Ms Javens to speak to us now, do we need to move the microphone near her. Thank you Ms Javens, this is a story that is quite well known, so we’ll try not to put you through too much as we ask you questions. But your husband was one of the people who was ... At this meeting we made the decision that the facility of Serache must be attacked by the Defence Force and that the people would be killed. "We noticed certain white people in civilian clothes assaulting some black street hawkers with sjambocks." [Indistinct] Mr Mosotho to just try and speak a bit louder and try and speak right into this microphone so that your voice can be louder, can be amplified otherwise the people can’t hear you. So I am going to ask you to just speak a little bit louder, okay? Now when you woke up in the hospital in ... MR LEWIN: Mrs Masilela I'd like to thank you for coming and would like to welcome you to this hearing. While you were travelling this morning we did hear that there were some visitors from Germany but I don't think they travelled from Germany today so I think you must be the only person at this ... Some time between 1990 and 1991 the Applicant was transferred by his superiors to Bloemfontein where they operated from a farm outside the city. He states that the Security Police and askaris used that farm as an "office base". Activists would be taken there for torture and questioning. One of ... 8. Cooperating with members of Combat Security in securing the nearby reservoir against attacks. This also involved the harassment and assault on a number of people on the road and the eventual shooting and wounding of one Guduza Makhoba and Mduduzi. Good morning Mrs Joseph it’s just still morning, welcome and thank you. I know that you had to sit and wait for all the various other people until you could tell your own story. Please rise to take the oath. Sir, as I understand you correctly, you only saw two people assaulting the deceased, am I right? Now are we to understand from this firstly, that there were experiments done on animals and in people, and in fact it was used in a combat situation, the incapacitant which was made up of, amongst other things, methaqualone? I was just a laughing matter. People were just laughing at me. At school I cannot participate as much as I would like to. I fail all the time. I repeat every standard five times. MR NEL: No, the names stated in my application are the people that I do remember. There were other people as well, as I've stated in number 5. I think there were more people there, but I can't remember who they were. MR SIMELANE: Let me start off with the first one. As I was a member of the SDU we were divided into cells and sometimes there would be 10 to 15 people within a cell and each cell had a commander and there was an area commander as well as a central commander. CHAIRPERSON: The next witness, could those people who are leaving please keep as quiet as possible. |
