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people's warExplanation MR NYAWUZA: Mr Mabuza, I seem to be having a problem here because we're having a situation on this particular day where a police officer is going to be attacked way before the thought of killing the deceased comes to mind, you are attacking people of the same stature, both are police officers, but ... The Applicant was not inside the hall when the shooting occurred and could not give evidence as to what happened there. What he had been told by others is clearly hearsay. Suffice to say, that the Applicant says he takes full responsibility for the actions of his comrades. He said that UNITRA ... MR HUGO: And you then ask this honourable Committee to give you amnesty for amongst others fraud and the illegal possession of ammunition, defeating the ends of justice, damage to property, possible conspiracy to murder unknown people in Botswana and any other delict or crime that could have ... the liberation of our country and for our people, but he got ill treatment while they were in the custody of the police. We thank you for coming forward so that you can tell the Commission and the country as a whole. The main aim of the Commission is to when you tell your story so that the whole ... He said that there were no riots, they were just toyi-toying. It was not all the people from the township, it was only a small group because we are two groups in the township. It was only kids. Then the police came, then Flemming shot me. I was actually shot by Flemming, my son said. Then my ... MR MATJILA: In 1985 I met with Cosas members singing at school. It was the first time I supported them. I joined the Cosas organisation. They killed one boy in 1985. Things went on. In 1986, it was in December, we were attending a night vigil on 19th Avenue at Jingles Magoti's house. Whilst ... MR NDLUNGWANE: Well basically immediately after the unbanning of the African National Congress, there was this scourge of violence and those MK comrades who were back at the time, met at certain instances to discuss about the situation and a decision was then taken that people should be armed and ... GEN LE ROUX: Yes, I think so. If there should be bomb threats, the people showing the film would perhaps become aware of possible problems which could have resulted and that would possibly have caused them not to show the movie. While schooling I didn’t have sleep at all because the police would come home - I didn’t know where he was sleeping because he didn’t sleep at home. But when I prepared myself for work he would come and prepare himself for school. I didn’t know what was happening because he wasn’t fond of ... At about 20 to eight, when I was still in the house, one of his friends, Mandla Sithole who worked with him came and said there is a problem. There was violence in Thembisa. Rufus was one of the people who was in that violence. There was a company car hi-jacked. Rufus went there and when he ... PROFESSOR MEIRING: Mrs Ndlebe, thank you for coming. We have heard so many stories today about the same event, about that fateful night, the vigil, the massacre, the people involved. And now you have come and you have brought your daughter-in-law Sebongele with you. Will you please relax and tell ... 3. All the applicants were members of a political party and acted against people they believed to be their political opponents. Although they aver that they received an order to kill the deceased, the Committee cannot find that such an order was explicitly given,but on evidence, it is clear that ... MR VISSER: You mentioned to him, or mention was made that the persons wanted to go to Swaziland in order to establish contact with the ANC MK in Swaziland in order to further the people's war strategy and to entrench and promote this amongst the students in South Africa? CHAIRPERSON: My concern Mr van den Berg, is that we would like to finish this matter. We've lost a lot of time today, we started late. I don't want to adjourn until tomorrow and then find we can't finish, because unfortunately tomorrow we will have to adjourn early because certain people have to ... MR KHOTLE: I will start with Great Storm. Firstly, Operation Great Storm, or in the 1990's was declared the decade of intensification of the armed struggle and the people's offensive. That is where the Operation Great Storm was originated from. testified or attested to affidavits before us and accordingly we have no details of such people. Nevertheless, it is clear that should they come forward and satisfy the Reparation Committee that they were injured during the course of the incidents they would be entitled to be treated as victims ... me that the robbery was an operation planned by PAC or its military wing APLA. As indicated earlier, it appeared that the Police had acquired prior warning of the robbery operation. In fact various other PAC members including Horatius Motswadi and others were also arrested. During the ... place called Makaleni. It was very bad, from 1985 and 1986 we couldn't sleep at night because there was war between Azapo and UDF. We would get into bed dressed, even as parents. Our children could not be at home for a long time, and I could see that Azapo and UDF were fighting because there ... ... we understood at some stage, never should start off and say that, you will recall that by that time, we had already become accustomed, or rather aware that the enemy at the time had already embarked on a program which was to turn some of our people into what we now refer to as Askaris and at ... According to the applicant he was instructed by Jerome Mncwabe to do something that would scare the UDF people living in Zone One to such an extent that they would leave the area. The objective was to cause the UDF people staying in Zone One to flee the area so that it could become IFP territory. ... |
