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people's warExplanation ... are individuals and communities who suffered in a specific way as a result of gross human rights violations. What is the obligation of the nation towards these people? What forms of memory, rehabilitation and reparation are reasonably ... What we have got, is what we have picked up from the press or stories what people said, you know what happened to our brother, do you know what happened to your son... That is it. Applicant Lieta stated before the Committee that the Motsuenyane Commission wrongly used the name Piliso in its report. They should have referred to him as the person who used excessive force in Lusaka. The Committee doesn’t find it necessary to refer in more detail to the Motsuenyane report. ... This is a person who is, of all people, able to provide all the evidence you require, and you will be able to listen to all that. The press has conveyed an image of this project which is far-removed from the truth, and they also must hear, for once and for all, what this project was about. He says he had to be involved in the interrogation of Biko because he had already questioned Jones who implicated Biko in his own statement, Exhibit H, wherein he stated that he had overheard a conversation between Titi and Biko about possible ways and means of producing the pamphlet in question. ... MR GOBODO: So, you are trying to say they were not Xhosa people, do you think they were speaking like Zulu or Sotho? "The acts of the Applicants in SWA in 1989 were not part of the conflicts of the past as intended in the TRC Act. These acts were not directed against South African opponents, e.g. the liberation groups or political organisations opposing the then government. The Appellants went to SWA to lend ... ... National Congress, the ANC, to co-ordinate student activities on a national level in order to promote the creation and extension of the people's war strategy. These discussions would also among others focus on a planned national protest actions, boycotts, and so ... So now Mr Zuma and the other people later, I mean further informed us that they were busy with the investigation, because they said Joy Hayden, according to them, was a plant of the regime who had penetrated the movement and it was later on that they discovered that she was actually a plant and ... This incident relates to the matter which became known as the Allan Boesak investigation. People were interrogated at Pretoria, Cape Town and Durban. Activists whose names could be recalled by the applicant were Allan Boesak, C. Ntinto, J. Manuel, S. Gunn, T. Yengeni and D. Omar. She never got a chance to go to school and get educated just like other people. The life of people here in the Free State, more especially in the farms that belonged to the Boers, and these Boers were members of the AWB on the farms. Anyway, to cut it short, if the deceased is who we think he is, then we were fighting on opposing sides, we were fighting a war that was caused by ideologies and fanned by politicians. I think I was about four months old when the Nationalist Government came to power, I had nothing to do with the ... ... The distance could have been about two houses and they shone a torch on me and when I tried to face these people or caspar, they stared shooting towards me. I do not know what they threw at me, I thought it was a tear gas canister at first and I continued to run, and I ran past my home. ... He, however, remembers that in some instances the people laid charges and dockets were opened. These dockets have since been destroyed. He stated that when a docket was opened against a member of the police force it would go to a certain section where there was a retired Brigadier. He ... MR BERGER: That was not always the case. Alright. Now in fact, while we're on page 35, we can deal with the command structure of Kletshwayo, which you have listed the people involved there at the top of page 35. You see that? The paragraph which reads The interpreters found that - unfortunate a bit difficult to hear. If - if the Commissioners could assist the victim. We’ve missed that last answer from the person. I’m going to ask - I’m going to ask you to perhaps - with Paul’s help - just move a little bit closer to the mike because people ... When the deceased walked out the meeting broke down in chaos as all the people there were shouting that she must be killed for refusing to leave the village. The meeting elected certain people to carry out the killing. These were David Nkoma, L. Sekgobela, Mpoya Erick Sekgobela and the Applicant. ... MR NDZUMO: I think the cause of his death was the misunderstanding at his work place. He didn't - he was very politically minded at those times. He was really complaining about other people. He was really complaining about other people in authority who were in prisons those days. It seemed as if ... Smiles tried to explain why he made this statement. He said that he didn't trust the people of the TRC who visited him and requested a statement from him. During his evidence he often explained that he didn't reveal the full truth in his statement of the 27th September 1993 because he didn't want ... MR SANDI: Were there any other people who were with you who were also shot? |
