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people's warExplanation MR DE KOCK: Mr Chairperson, I wasn't there at that stage but I wouldn't have been surprised. Out of my experience, the wound was not such a nature that he would have died from it. We did go to the houses, we did get the detonators and the weapons, so there was no reason to attack this person ... MR HATTINGH: Were there no people in the houses or buildings who might have seen him? DR RANDERA:: Chairperson, if you will, we also have other people from different areas and I want to particularly welcome some of the people who actually appeared at other hearings, Mrs Bangeni from Soweto, the mother of Bheki Bangeni, and Duma from Sharpeville, one of the Sharpeville six people ... MR BERGER: That was not always the case. Alright. Now in fact, while we're on page 35, we can deal with the command structure of Kletshwayo, which you have listed the people involved there at the top of page 35. You see that? The paragraph which reads ADV DE JAGER: Ja, perhaps if he could listen before he starts giving evidence. I don't know whether it's been explained to him, if he didn't commit any offence and if he wouldn't admit that he associated himself with the commission of an offence, he can't get amnesty because we can only give ... MR KOOPEDI: Now, can you tell this Honourable Committee what could have been your political motive, if you had any, to attack these people, the two deceased? ... they were continuing with normal classes. So when we arrived at Imakilata some of the people within the group were shouting obscene things towards the nuns and so on and Julian and I decided to leave. On our way back, it was in Bats Road, they were erecting barricades and someone who ... He, however, remembers that in some instances the people laid charges and dockets were opened. These dockets have since been destroyed. He stated that when a docket was opened against a member of the police force it would go to a certain section where there was a retired Brigadier. He ... MR MASINA: We fixed an appointment with people who were based in Botswana. We sent our agent recruiter to whom we had given a letter to take to the people in Botswana. He came back with a written response giving us the go ahead in the elimination of Mr Lukhele. MR ANDREWS: Okay. I was held alone at Brighton Beach Police Station, in single cells and not being able to communicate with other people and this constantly playing on my mind. That's exactly the circumstances under which I agreed to lead evidence for the State. MR MUDAU: It was by the time when the deceased was starting to fight with the people. DR RANDERA: Can I ask again is Beryl Harmse here? No. I would like to then call Nomasonto Kgalema. Can I please ask individuals who are taking photographs, not to use their flash cameras as people are telling stories. Thank you very much. I want to welcome a number of groupings who are here ... We went into the first police station at the training college. When we got there we asked the police to take us to the Bophuthatswana police station so that we could look for my son. They said to us we don't have any pass to speak to those people or authorise them, go and ask them on your own so ... He still leaves next to me but at this time he is not around. He is the one who picked up Christopher ‘s shoe at Thabane. The people from Thabane should be my witness. I am very geatful for this, I don’t know whether this was going to be known public. I cannot know the police and the pupils cannot ... Some time between 1990 and 1991 the Applicant was transferred by his superiors to Bloemfontein where they operated from a farm outside the city. He states that the Security Police and askaris used that farm as an "office base". Activists would be taken there for torture and questioning. One of ... The applicants and their companions believed that they were acting onbehalf of the Bafokeng people in furtherance of their political struggle against anoppressive regime. MS MAYA: In the statement before us on which your evidence today will be based we find that you are going to speak about Phumzile Gladwell Plaatjies, who was also part of the crowd of the people who was killed on 21 March 1985. I would like you to please tell us when did you hear that Phumzile was ... MR CORNELIUS: Before the operation you gathered at Honeydew, there were various members of the Security Branch, you cannot recall the specific names of these people? MR DU TOIT: Mr Chairperson, I would just like to confirm the following, with explosives there are no guarantees, it's always a very unsafe or dangerous set-up, but depending on the explosives and the way in which it is opened, one can have a relatively clear anticipation of what could happen. If ... that was emanating from King Williamstown, Victoria grounds. We were going to Bisho. It was at about 11 o'clock. We went up using the main road towards King Williamstown to Bisho. On the way to King Williamstown on the sides there were police and soldiers of the Republic of South Africa. I ... |
