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people's warExplanation MR NEL: No, the names stated in my application are the people that I do remember. There were other people as well, as I've stated in number 5. I think there were more people there, but I can't remember who they were. Thank you - thank you very much, that’s very helpful. I just - can you remember if you think back now did the police ever say why they were taking your brother or what did they accuse him of because he was obviously never tried - he was detained like so many other people but did they ever say ... DR RANDERA: Maybe, whilst we’re deciding people can just take a stand up and ...... Now are we to understand from this firstly, that there were experiments done on animals and in people, and in fact it was used in a combat situation, the incapacitant which was made up of, amongst other things, methaqualone? MR CORNELIUS: And the instruction was, it's also common cause, to go and kill these people, is that correct? MS MKHIZE: Can I ask Mrs Marge Nkomo to come forward please. Mrs Nkomo, I would like to welcome you and I must apologise, you are one of those people who have been here, I must apologise it has been a long day for you, but I thank you for your patience and in welcoming you, I would just make one ... MR NGXONGO: I was in Sipiwe's company and he was going to introduce me to Mrs Umbiasi. She was supposed to know that I was one of the people who were working with Sipiwe in Durban South Region where Sipiwe was the head or the commander. MR MODIKOA: I did not know as to whether there were other people in the house but we knew that Sibongele was in the house but we did not know as to whether there were other people in the house. MR RORICH: We had information by means of our sources and we knew these people from physical observations which we did in Swaziland from time to time. MR MUDAU: It was by the time when the deceased was starting to fight with the people. MRS TEMA: On the death of Simon Mashigoane un 1992, he died in Manganeng on the 8th of the eighth of the eighth. An Anc man came to me to inform me about Simon's death and told me that he died in Manganeng. I told them that we did not know for a long time where the guy was and we saw him for the ... took a hosepipe and they poured water. Then in that foam they put us in that foam and they came with shamboks. We were beaten. Yes, they really assaulted us. Yes, they assaulted us. Skosane tried to speak. They said this old man what does he want here? Then Makawe, they said this little ... MR ANDREWS: Okay. I was held alone at Brighton Beach Police Station, in single cells and not being able to communicate with other people and this constantly playing on my mind. That's exactly the circumstances under which I agreed to lead evidence for the State. MR SIMELANE: Nokuthula disappeared in 1983. She was attending at the University of Swaziland. Just when we were preparing to go and attend her graduation, that is when we discovered that she has disappeared and nowhere to be found. We searched all over for Nokuthula and we never found Nokuthula. ... MR MAJOVA: No, in Thlabani they had none, we went there together. When we were getting there for the second time, when I went there, we went to the Shell House people where they also gathered information. The plan was that Macaskill would arrange a party at his house and invite the group to join the party. He was also armed with some drug to dose the people at the party so as to facilitate the killing of these people. He would be paid R5000.00 per person killed. It seems that he had ... MR NAZO: I stayed for a month, but one Sunday when the Boers were beating us certain people cried. We were then released on Monday. MR WILLIAMS: Now Mr Mbelo, I want to ask you, before you filled in your application for amnesty did you discuss this particular incident with any of the people that were involved in this incident? MR VAALTYN: There was chaos all over. The police were all over the area. There was shooting all over, the police were shooting at people. MRS MHLABANE: During the year 1985 in June on the 10th, it was round about half past seven in the morning. I was on my way to work. Many people were in the street going up and down because there was a strike. But I was waiting for the taxi because I was supposed to report at eight at work. Some ... |