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Operation Zero ZeroExplanation MR MNQANDI: So you cannot tell us how many members were altogether involved in this operation? This operation was carried out under the command of Uncle Siyazi who was our leader and a chairperson. I did not at any stage receive any instruction directly from Mr Harry Gwala to attack or kill victims. After this attack the area became quiet. ... Exhibits A, B and C serves before this Committee which was handed up and deals with the general background to amnesty applications as well as Operation Vula. You have studied these documents and do you ask that these be incorporated in your evidence insofar as your knowledge goes and do ... "I confirm that on the day of the operation, I travelled from Welkom to Wesselsbron, with Sohane, the driver, Sibande and Sebinzile on the instruction of Abel Khotle. He instructed us to meet Bhani in Wesselsbron and he will brief us about the operation to take place." before the committee. He confirmed that he was the applicant's superior in the APLA hierarchy and that he instructed the applicant to carry out the operation at the fruit shop. He explained that he gave the instruction for the operation to be carried out notwithstanding the fact that the first ... MS THABETE: Before committing the operation that you've applied for amnesty for, what other activities did you used to do as SDUs in Katlehong, or what other activities were you involved in? The two applicants corroborate each other in all material respects about the operation they launched. MR HECHTER: It was not necessary, Chairperson, they reported directly to me and if Brig Cronje discussed something with me, I would just tell them "listen here, I shall see you this evening, we have to execute an operation" or "meet me" at whatever time we decided to launch the operation. MR WHEELER: Yes, through my conclusions, I thought that we were assisting them in this operation or war, as they called it, we assisted them, I thought so. As long as we know what the main moments and features of the operation were, and those were that all these applicants who appeared before you, were there in a supporting capacity. Really one would always be tempted to think that if it hadn't been for SWT180, they wouldn't have been involved at ... ADV VISSER: Can you tell the Committee in your own words, how you became involved in this operation, referred to as an operation, and what your part in it was? ... which had to be studied by the Security Branch. As they entered the building, Applicant and his colleagues were shot at and had to abort the operation. A window and one downpipe were damaged during the ... MR CORNELIUS: I put it to you that Mr van Heerden was a Constable two months stationed there and that he was an insignificant little figure against the other chief officials who were running the operation. MR LAMEY: I may be wrong but my recollection of Mr Coetzee's evidence is indeed that the black members were not present during the whole, or were not aware of this turning action during this whole operation, if I understand his evidence correctly. ... in Northern Natal. I think basically this was in conjunction with what was happening in the Southern Natal as you had spoken at large around the Operation Butterfly. The issue was that all the activities were concentrated only on the southern part of Natal and nothing was happening in ... MR RAS: No. He would have known that it would be used in order to kill people, but he wasn't informed specifically about the operation. ... was not relieved for greasing, it was just an ordinary activity, he did not have a lot or property as it is mentioned. Secondly with regard to co-operation with the people, the reason why he competed with people is because the youth went to tell him he could not allow that to happen, because he ... ... They phoned at home. They explained to them and said your child is in this way, he is sick, and we want you to come and sign for a consent for an operation and the treatment. My parents asked to say that refer that person here, because that is too far and there is no ... ... light was switched off. I stayed for an hour after that and I was sure that even if there could be anything around, I will be able to carry out my operation quite successfully and I threw in the hand grenade and I disappeared in the dark of the ... MR VAN WYK: There is a history since 1994 in respect of your co-operation with the police and the investigation that there was several non-disclosures, do you concede that? |
