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Operation Zero ZeroExplanation CHAIRPERSON: What contribution could the Police then make to this operation if the Defence Force had all of the information at hand? Chairperson it's my submission that for any application to fall within the ambit of the Act, it must be an application for a specific incident or operation and the applicant must be in a position to fully disclose all the material facts related to that operation. The incidents that are to be ... ... us full details of the medical treatmentwhich you received. I have here a copy of the account from Philonomi Hospitalin Bloemfontein after your operation, so we have all those details. We wouldalso like to get from you the letter which you have just referred to. We don'thave that in our ... ... not find him then we went to the hospital. I was just attended to and giving medicine and pills whereas Mamakie was hospitalised and underwent an operation. The bullet was not removed and gave me problems. I underwent an operation under the influence of Doctor ... ... his offer and that event co-incided with the statement from ANC in exile saying that it will now train ANC cadres inside the country and duty operation, we were prepared to liberate our country by all means necessary. So through Valley who was the local co-ordinator, these guys came, Mike, ... before the committee. He confirmed that he was the applicant's superior in the APLA hierarchy and that he instructed the applicant to carry out the operation at the fruit shop. He explained that he gave the instruction for the operation to be carried out notwithstanding the fact that the first ... MR MAPOMA: Now, when you went to the Leeukloof farm you went there for an operation as members of the SDU, do I understand that to be correct? ... on the basis that the deceased was not a member of the Toaster gang and that at the time of his death the gang was not longer active and in operation in Tembisa. She averred that she did not stay with the deceased. The deceased lived at Umthambeni Section with him mother particularly ... ADV VISSER: Can you tell the Committee in your own words, how you became involved in this operation, referred to as an operation, and what your part in it was? "During or about 1986, the house of a certain Jafta family in Willowvale, was burnt by the Security Police. This was an operation by members of the Transkeian Defence Force, under the command of Lieut Mandela, Transkei Anti-Riot Unit, East London Security Branch, under the command of Capt de Lange ... ... condemned this terrible act and whether they still permit people to be members of their party and whether that party, the IFP, will give their co-operation to the police in ensuring that these people are brought to justice. We have seen many people like yourself who - or we have taken many ... MR HECHTER: It was not necessary, Chairperson, they reported directly to me and if Brig Cronje discussed something with me, I would just tell them "listen here, I shall see you this evening, we have to execute an operation" or "meet me" at whatever time we decided to launch the operation. that if we undertook the practise run during the day, it would become general knowledge, we wanted to keep it a secret because of the situation. The operation was to take place at night and it would be incorrect for them to practise during the day for something which they were going to do at ... The applicant has no knowledge of the extent of the damage caused during the operation nor whether any person was injured at Morget's house, except that the windows were broken. to meet up with some of his former colleagues. That might lead to him observing their relationship with the Security Police and secure his future co-operation. He called on the 1st Applicant and instructed him to take the matter further. He did not personally speak to Knowles, but assumed that ... MR BIZOS: Aren’t you really contrasting your attitude in relation to co-operation between what you were prepared to tell the SAP and what you were not prepared to tell these foreigners? ... Musi and them but listen then, make a plan, you know, show, you know, draw a sketch plan of their houses etc., you know, one doesn't embark on an operation like this without a sketch plan. Or it could be that Musi had said, look these are our plans, we've got a sketch plan. But the point is ... ... these pellets a wad is blown out at the same time. The wad in the cartridge keeps the pellets separate from the shot and allows for more efficient operation of the cartridge. As the pellets exit from the muzzle of the weapon so they start to spread and that spread can be used to give an ... I have studied the relevant parts of Col Coetzee’s Amnesty Application in so far as it deals with the execution of the operation and I accord therewith, specifically with regard to the role that was filled by myself. MR LAMEY: I may be wrong but my recollection of Mr Coetzee's evidence is indeed that the black members were not present during the whole, or were not aware of this turning action during this whole operation, if I understand his evidence correctly. |