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Operation Zero ZeroExplanation ... not find him then we went to the hospital. I was just attended to and giving medicine and pills whereas Mamakie was hospitalised and underwent an operation. The bullet was not removed and gave me problems. I underwent an operation under the influence of Doctor ... Chairperson it's my submission that for any application to fall within the ambit of the Act, it must be an application for a specific incident or operation and the applicant must be in a position to fully disclose all the material facts related to that operation. The incidents that are to be ... MR WESSELS: And that you were involved with this operation? This operation was carried out under the command of Uncle Siyazi who was our leader and a chairperson. I did not at any stage receive any instruction directly from Mr Harry Gwala to attack or kill victims. After this attack the area became quiet. MS THABETE: Before committing the operation that you've applied for amnesty for, what other activities did you used to do as SDUs in Katlehong, or what other activities were you involved in? ... on the basis that the deceased was not a member of the Toaster gang and that at the time of his death the gang was not longer active and in operation in Tembisa. She averred that she did not stay with the deceased. The deceased lived at Umthambeni Section with him mother particularly ... MR THULO: Chairperson, there was a co-operation, but I don't believe that that co-operation would go to extent to involve these kinds of issues. MR HECHTER: It was not necessary, Chairperson, they reported directly to me and if Brig Cronje discussed something with me, I would just tell them "listen here, I shall see you this evening, we have to execute an operation" or "meet me" at whatever time we decided to launch the operation. before the committee. He confirmed that he was the applicant's superior in the APLA hierarchy and that he instructed the applicant to carry out the operation at the fruit shop. He explained that he gave the instruction for the operation to be carried out notwithstanding the fact that the first ... never resisted anything, he never lied to me. He never gave me any struggle whatsoever. In fact he is one of the people who gave me an absolute co-operation, insofar as my investigation was concerned. So he told me that yes, he took part in the killing of Dhlomo, he was a commander of a ... CHAIRPERSON: Yes, the pension proceeds in any case, won't form part of the estate, that seems to be the operation of the law in respect of that, so there doesn't seem to be any sort of ... MR KOOPEDI: Now let's go to the second incident, which would be in 1983. Were you still a member of Special Operation at that stage? ... in Northern Natal. I think basically this was in conjunction with what was happening in the Southern Natal as you had spoken at large around the Operation Butterfly. The issue was that all the activities were concentrated only on the southern part of Natal and nothing was happening in ... CHAIRPERSON: So to that extent you did not even contribute to the operation there, because you were not even allowed? MR RAS: No. He would have known that it would be used in order to kill people, but he wasn't informed specifically about the operation. ... Musi and them but listen then, make a plan, you know, show, you know, draw a sketch plan of their houses etc., you know, one doesn't embark on an operation like this without a sketch plan. Or it could be that Musi had said, look these are our plans, we've got a sketch plan. But the point is ... MR LAX: Yes, I understand that being the motive of the operation, but I want you to turn to page, do you have the documents in front of you, page 3? Page 3 forms part of your amnesty application, dated the 25th of April 1997. The date is on the previous page, the page after that. MR BEESLAAR: I can only state that I was not inebriated because Col de Kock's instructions were that no liquor should be consumed before or during an operation. My share was remote but due to my minor share, I nonetheless respected the instructions of Mr de Kock and obeyed them as such. ... me, I told him what had happened the previous day and he checked my eyes, and said that I had to be operated upon. I signed consent to undergo an operation. I was supposed to sign a consent but I refused and asked them to call my mother and when she came she also had the hope that I would get ... ... did not do the submission to the Chairperson, it was not my project. Only at the eleventh hour was I instructed by Staal Burger to execute the operation for the project with regard to the ape foetus matter at the Archbishop's house, I did not do any submissions, I received a direct ... |
