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Operation Zero ZeroExplanation Showing 741 to 760 of 1009 First Page•Previous Page 34 •35 •36 •37 •38 •39 •40 •41 •42 Next Page•Last PageADVÂ GCABASHE: Was there a particular commander in charge of this operation? MR SIBEKO: And you, with your comrades, got that information from Lucky Mampuru, who happened to have a co-operation or a working relationship with the members of the community of Everest, is that what you say? ... the police station, but the guns would be handed over to members of Inkatha, and we decided amongst ourselves that we should launch a mission or an operation of some sort, with the intention of disarming members of the Inkatha and later killing them. The eight of us, I think there were about ... ADV GCABASHE: Two questions, did he know that you were coming into his area to execute a particular operation, if he didn't, were you supposed to tell him? I just want to understand how this worked? The assassins used a Golf motor car when they committed the murders. They drove this car to a pre-arranged spot where they got into Robey's car and were driven by him to their hotel. The applicant Vlietstra took control of the car used in the operation and as arranged saw to its destruction later. MR MBANDAZAYO: Yes Mr Chairperson, if I may clarify, all the others were, the operation in Cape Town, Heidelberg Tavern and Khayelitsha Police Station ...(intervention) ADV POTGIETER: You mean you either need the co-operation of the police or the blessing? After the operation, De Kock reported to Brigadier Schoon that Mabotha, "the askari who had run away" would not bother them again, euphemistically meaning that he did not exist anymore. Schoon simply accepted the report and did not ask for details. Schoon, in his affidavit said he had no ... ... that his general instructions were to seek, identify and attack the enemy, as well as to train other cadres and to command them in whatever operation that was being embarked upon. Applicant testified that on 21st January 1993 he commanded a unit of APLA cadres to attack policemen working ... ... according to the applicant, was sent back by him halfway across the street because he was too heavily under the influence to participate in the ... ... get what I want done, okay? This is very important, you want to get something done, you really have to listen to who the other party is who you co-operation is with. If you only repeat yourself, you're the only one who hears it. You know, so it's wonderful, so you hear your voice you hear it ... MR MANTHATA: When you came back, what kind of operation were you doing as an underground agent ? So he underwent an operation. I went back to college at that time. What I didn't say; every time Eric was detained, it was the same Kombi of the security branch that fetched him. So it was the same people all the time. ... the same authority with regard to developments that fall outside this framework. In this regard, I made an unsuccessful attempt to enlist the co-operation of by predecessor, Mr P W Botha. The submission was, however, prepared after discussions with the retired leadership of the South African ... So, all the time they would call me to their office to reprimand me and I could cry in front of the management. Even the operation gave me some problems and this I reported to the manager but he ignored it. Mr van Heerden, you've applied for amnesty and you've given your full co-operation to the investigative team of the TRC. "My involvement in the operation was that I was in the vehicle together with Willie Nortje when the arrest of Malaza was executed and the handler was arrested and abducted." MR BLACK: Now have you any grudges against any of these people who you say were present at the rehearsal and who conducted this operation? M TYOBEKA: The following day after the operation, before the police came, the Doctor showed me my X-Ray plates. I was scared because I could see some object in my stomach. MR VISSER: He also said that after he had committed this task in co-operation with Mamome and Ramouseau, he reported back and you were not satisfied that they did not remove enough articles from that house and that you thought he had to remove more articles from that house to simulate a break-in. |