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Operation Zero ZeroExplanation ... therefore they are going to help us to conquer the ANC. We were told that we will be given different kinds of firearms as soon as we start our operation. Briefly I will say the aim was that we should use these arms to conquer the ANC and the ... MR BIZOS: Aren’t you really contrasting your attitude in relation to co-operation between what you were prepared to tell the SAP and what you were not prepared to tell these foreigners? MR VISSER: Can you recall who accompanied you there and who participated in the operation? ... a question where I've asked him whether it has since come to his knowledge that a small child, a boy of about 12, in fact lost his life in the operation in question and also that those two girls who are seated over there also lost their father, you are also aware of ... that if we undertook the practise run during the day, it would become general knowledge, we wanted to keep it a secret because of the situation. The operation was to take place at night and it would be incorrect for them to practise during the day for something which they were going to do at ... An elaborate scheme was then devised which was put into operation to abduct Zandile Ndwandwe from Swaziland which involved two informers have made contact with her. We don't know what their pretence was, why they wanted to meet her, but in terms of a note which we received, which is an Exhibit ... MR MEMANI: You see, Mr Khoja, Mr Ngo instructs me that the firearm which you issued, the 9mm firearm which you issued with eight bullets, was issued for him specifically because he was going to be involved in an operation which involved the shooting of the unknown security guard at Pahama. ... these pellets a wad is blown out at the same time. The wad in the cartridge keeps the pellets separate from the shot and allows for more efficient operation of the cartridge. As the pellets exit from the muzzle of the weapon so they start to spread and that spread can be used to give an ... MR LAX: Yes, I understand that being the motive of the operation, but I want you to turn to page, do you have the documents in front of you, page 3? Page 3 forms part of your amnesty application, dated the 25th of April 1997. The date is on the previous page, the page after that. During the night of 25/26 September 1986 Charles Sebe was freed from the Middledrift Prison in an operation conducted by a special unit. He was then taken to safe sanctity in Transkei. The 2nd Applicant confirmed the evidence of the 1st Applicant concerning the decision to kill Mr Kotelo and the formation of a unit to carry out the operation. We went to NU6 to do something called reconnaissance, to reconnoitre the place where this operation was going to take place. We came back. We went there again with another comrade called Bongani Dukwana, who was the main person who knew this policeman, because we did not know this policeman. This is a dangerous revolutionary advising a young person who had behaved in a violent manner. Was this taken into consideration before putting the decision, to put him to death, into operation? The second announcement is that if you are in possession of a cellphone, please switch that phone off now as it can be very disturbing particularly for the witnesses. Thank you very much for your co-operation. MR GALELA: What I would like to say is that I did not live peacefully because what the police did then was that they had a, they conducted an operation known as Hot Pursuit and even then they said that there were many ways to skin a cat. This is what the Boers said. Thereafter they killed the ... MR LAMEY: I may be wrong but my recollection of Mr Coetzee's evidence is indeed that the black members were not present during the whole, or were not aware of this turning action during this whole operation, if I understand his evidence correctly. Mr Flores, you've prepared an application in terms of Section 18 of Act 34 of 1995, presented it to the TRC Committee in Cape Town and provided your full co-operation with the TRC Committee's Investigating Team, is that correct? MR VISSER: Alright. Would that be a fund or a payment when an MK cadre was going to start a new operation? MR TOPI DOMINIC TLADI: In September 1984, it was on the 3rd, in Sharpeville we were having an operation clean up. Just when we finished cleaning up we decided to go and have some lunch. Just before we went home we stood at the corner of the street together with my friends. We were talking and as ... ... what I did say I delegated my powers, I mean you don't expect the Commissioner to go and sit there and really go into detailed arrangements for an operation like that. And as I have explained Brigadier Ngcobo and Major Simms they were the two people in charge down there, but I went there as ... |
