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people's warExplanation How did you think by killing these four gentlemen it would serve the interest of the Republic of South Africa? // Along with the instruction that I received Mr Chairman I was convinced at the time the elimination of these people would bring about stability in the area. It was not my decision but I ... Thereafter, what was done with the bodies of the deceased? // The wood was placed in a large pile in the backyard, the people were carried to the wood, put on top of it, // All three of them? // Yes. And it was set alight and diesel was poured over. If people are assisted financially over time with counselling and guidance it gives them an opportunity to improve their lot so to say, in a variety of ways. But I mean as I’ve said to you really we are there as advocates for victims. At the end of the day the government of the day has got to ... In the old apartheid regime, when they called you a very good cop, you’re a cop who takes orders and execute them without asking questions; then you’re a good cop. // You obviously heard of your colleagues at Vlakplaas who were involved in killing people as well. // Yes, that came to my ... In the Commission’s witness protection programme safe houses are however not an option for amnesty applicants serving prison sentences. // It’s a normal atmosphere in prison that if somebody speaks everybody else hears about it and there’s obviously going to be danger to the person. We have a ... The cult of the individual, the cult of personality. I think those who have read the histories of the world would know about those events in various countries where powerful figures, where the desire, in fact their desire in even affect acquire reverence from in fact subjects, become so powerful, ... The politicians can say we didn”t give that order, because they didn”t give that order. It”s nowhere stated that we said so and so should be killed. We said so and so should be eliminated, but we meant that that person should be detained. And then never having any real knowledge, or real ... I will agree that maybe I summarized the matter wrong, but I’m of the opinion that the whole situation is so emotionally charged that different people will get different messages from what is happening. ‘Ladybrand Town Hall’ // When he arrives at the Town Hall, Lyster who’s to chair the proceedings, makes a quick count of the witnesses and the hearing gets underway. // Good day Mr. Mfazwe. // Good day. // Mister Ivan Lax will help you take an oath before we start with your story. // Do you ... Hello. Welcome to the Special Report. Tonight we deal with the bloody conflict in KTC Crossroads in 1987, the vicious APLA attack on an Eastern Cape hotel in 1992 and the death of 11 commuters during the 1983 Mdansane bus boycott. But we start in the Cape Peninsula. The dreaded pass book had always ... The two men who killed with Makoma: Tobela Mlambisa and Bassie Mkhumbuzi are not in jail, they are members of the South African National Defence Force. We are building a new moral order in South Africa. How can we have brutal killers like these in our Defence Force and a cruel torturer like Jeffrey ... If Mr. Bizos is going to use statements made under duress, which half of them are rubbish and when people were drunk, and he is going to say yes, but you said that, there and you said that in your application and its contradictory. We don’t know to what degree they’re going to worry about the ... Samuel Jamile was a well known IFP politician in the eighties. Mrs. Khuswayo believes he’s responsible for her husband’s death. // The true story is that Jamile, myself Samuel Bhikizizwe Jamile, I have never killed anybody, I’ve never instructed anybody. I was an Inkatha man and these people ... Many people took surnames when you knew the man is black because you went to school together. We grew up together. But now the man is a Pietersen or a Hugo or he simply made himself Coloured. As an individual and perhaps being involved with quite a number of others it shows the recognitions of the efforts of those who fought against apartheid. And it does not only show how good and how well deserving their struggle was, but at the same time it shows appreciation of the people that were ... As a result of the way in which the South African police were utilized in Zimbabwe and Namibia, where they were actually used as ordinary soldiers. They hunted people, tried to kill them and eliminate them. Then these members of the South African Police came back to the Republic and were then ... ‘On the granting of amnesty to the 37 ANC leaders’ // Unfortunately politicians will look for anything that seems to give them some sort of mileage and I am sad actually to discover that some people whom I had thought did have integrity actually haven’t. I mean, they actually tell untruths. ... Konyimane Ranyaka was a MK cadre who disappeared mysteriously. His brother, Molekoane has received conflicting statements from the ANC and is still seeking answers. // I’m bitter, very bitter. I know, our people, how they think you know, they mystify the ANC, they must separate the quest for ... To my mind I’ve always been clear that the person I hold responsible ultimately for my bombing is F. W. de Klerk. I spoke to Van Zyl Slabbert, and he said, I Van Zyl Slabbert went to De Klerk and told him about the death squads. He cannot say he didn’t know. And so, I hold him politically and ... Some preferred to stay behind. And this week they told the Commission of torture, of killings and of the pain that is so hard to forget. // He removed those electric wires from my neck and then they turned me on the other side. He opened my trousers at the back and then they took these electric ... |
