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people's warExplanation But you see where things really went wrong was in the workplace. The one time the Kleynhans brothers were coming to the … and he says to the people, those that have got licenses could they come one side. All the chaps were very happy, they were going to drive trucks and things and then they found ... ... and different schools are coming here, talking together, sleeping over; playing music together. That’s fantastic. That’s how we’re going forward and shows also the value of heritage in redefining a South African identity as ... There were people along the road from the Executive Hotel down to this space. These people were armed; I didn’t know why they were armed. When I came in here I found a crowd of people. // When we gathered there in thousands the police and soldiers were there in hundreds. Now, we didn’t know ... The movement for reconciliation is growing in our church on ground level. The church also continually and with empathy focused on the large numbers of people who were unjustly disadvantaged during the times of apartheid and to assist them in their poverty and suffering. A lack of understanding and ... It is true that most of the witnesses who testified here were lying. As far as I am concerned Richardson was lying. As far as I am concerned the two youths who claim that I gave them money to kill Dr Asvat were lying. As far as I’m concerned Morgan’s ludicrous statements made before you here ... Nothing came of the thousands of right wingers, only a handful turned up. // This is my flag. Nobody, Mandela to the grassroots people, will take it away. It’s my flag, it will stay with me. // Do you support PW Botha? // Too much. Let them touch him then they’ll see who the real Afrikaner is, ... It was a very emotional moment, personally. Because I felt the pain that the victims felt and of which I do regret the loss of lives. And moreover in the position in which I saw them. Hoping that this message will be related to the victims and to other people who suffered the struggle. Especially ... toilet and drink from the toilet sink.’ // It was like I was alive and all these people were dead. I was so disturbed but I would not ever let the warders know … but they did destroy me. // He watched from under the bed as they pumped bullets into his brother and into his wife, bullets ... Something is right or not right, and the black people were below us, slaves and mostly used as labourers. The first address given is that of Mr. Nelson Mandela and then there are some notes: the house of such and so is deliberately not numbered but is easily recognizable by ‘bla bla bla.’ It’s obvious why this description is there mister Chairman to me, and that is because the house was not ... ... a symbol of reconciliation. And I said well how is it a symbol of reconciliation? And he said it’s because at this point people who used to be warders here are now working with former prisoners hand in hand. I just was wondering how this was for you, because you’ve been here for seven ... ... is incidents of St James’s and the Amy Biehl ones. // The question, which was a simple one, remains unanswered. Was the leadership of the PAC aware of what took place in the incidents that it itself has brought to us. And if it only became subsequently aware of these incidents, did the ... Some people lost their lives in the process; some were injured, some were jailed and some had to run for their lives out of the country. But the march drew the attention of the world and South Africa was never the same again. First victim was seventeen year old Kwanele Bucwa who was riding his bicycle at the head of the procession of mourners. // And I was riding in front of the crowd of people who were chanting songs and there were two hippos at the back of them. There was one policeman who lifted up whose name was ... Mbane’s testimony was at times confusing. // You wanted to do it. // First of all I didn’t know that those people were going to be shot, because when I went to there to show Bellingam that point we were going to, they didn’t tell me that they were going to shoot them. They didn’t tell me ... ‘On 2 December 1988, New Hanover police Captain Brian Mitchell ordered the elimination of a group of UDF members. The operation went wrong. Eleven people attending a night vigil were killed.’ // It was just I think the driving force behind it, behind the motives of the security establishment ... I cannot specifically say the number and I won’t be able to know that, because I didn’t count them. I only looked at the place and I saw that there were people inside and there were many. I don’t know how many there were. Some crucial moments have passed. In the beginning of last year when you got to know the legislation you realized that it was unfairly weighed towards the perpetrators. No one did anything. You didn’t request to ask that the legislation be changed. After the first six weeks of hearings people ... ... but I don’t need to be noisy about it and I think that’s also a very big and important strength. My daughter gives to me a very strong sense of warmth and I don’t want this to be a gender thing, I don’t want it to be understood as a gender issue. But there’s a sensitivity about her, you ... This is a matter of concern to the entire leadership of the ANC. Our people are being killed and violence is escalating. There’s been a loud outcry from our people for arms and for the setting up of self defence units. The National Executive Committee is looking into this issue. |
