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people's warExplanation That the whole of South Africa and the people of Natal can see that there was a war against the ANC. That there really was a third force… there was a third force. Senior officers can deny it but those of us who were involved in it can testify. There is no other word for it. // People who still ... The type of warder who was in charge of us while we were in jail. I mean, there were people, you heard some of the stories he told about the distorted kind of humour which they had and how easy it was for them to resort to brutalities. Now these are human beings, these are people like you and me; ... Derby-Lewis provided Janusz Walus with a pistol needed for the assassination. // Well the whole objective was to plunge the country into a situation where as a result of the chaos which we anticipated would occur as a result of the assassination that people on the right would be inspired to ... ‘Botshabelo 5:00 pm’ // It was very important to me the actual relation although people say I proclaimed myself, but I will say to the TRC what’s very important as the workers leader, because I was working for Transport and General Workers’ Union at that time, which the affiliate of COSATU ... The skull is his daughter’s, Phila Portia Ndwandwe, 24 when she died. An Umkhonto we Sizwe commander in Natal; mother of baby Thabang, born in Swaziland in 1987. In October 1988 Ndwandwe was abducted from Manzini to Pietermaritzburg. The people who sold her out were comrades. Her abductors: four ... Ngxobongwana, a former UDF supporter had been arrested a year earlier and many believe he was turned to work for the state during his imprisonment. By 1986 Ngxobongwana was the main witdoek leader in Crossroads, now working against his former Comrades. Their conflict came to a head when the state ... Afterwards two truth commissioners expressed their deep disappointment with the National Party attitude. // To make that apology and then to negate it by the way that … I feel sorry for him, I mean maybe he didn’t know, but … I told him that people were killed, we went and told them. I mean ... Your evidence was that Col Snyman reported that there was discussion at the JMC in which the Defence Force people put in the JMC, put the security police under pressure and suggested that the security police were unable to stabilize the position. Do you recall that? // Yes. // Now ... of this ... That was a rubbish place, I want to tell you. Because mostly people who had been taken there, having a queue and you go naked, without trousers, sometimes they check you how you’re healthy and so forth. But that is another worse story, because you have to queue two to three lines, until your ... ... denied everything, calling her accusers ‘ludicrous,’ ‘ridiculous,’ ‘outrageous’ or ‘senile.’ Twice the Truth Commission had to warn her and her supporters not to intimidate witnesses and twice she showed her own racial bias against Indian South Africans. At the end of the ... Let’s turn our attention to something else now. Before we go to the heartbreaking story of the people who lost their heritage, we continue our series of short profiles on the people who make the Truth Commission process happen. Tonight we look at Deputy Chairperson Alex Boraine. Our aim was to kill as many people as possible. ... but it looks like they’re still dodging some questions and not being able to tell the full story. // People must begin to see change, to move towards reconciliation otherwise you have a kind of talk that is something like this. In the office, yes we’re a rainbow nation and in the taverns ... The churches must say to those who know that they have a heavy burden of guilt. Confess it, speak the truth, because isn’t it God who says the truth shall make you free. The truth shall make you free. The truth, not so that people must be prosecuted, the truth so that people must become free, the ... Tomorrow Mamasela and the other askaris will give their version of what happened on that dark day in 1985. Let’s introduce you now to one of the people who drive the truth commission process, Truth Commissioner Glenda Wildschut. And the question then is, is the political authority not primarily responsible then. // I agree with you. Perhaps I should refer to my amnesty application. I can only agree with you, that it’s not only against the policemen, but also against the people who gave him his instructions and who ... The man they all blamed, Brig Fanie Gilbert, is now deceased. // After all these facts were placed before him, did Brigadier Gilbert tell you to eliminate these people? // That is so Your Honour. // You told me that the second sentence here should read. ‘He then suggested that this operation be ... It is very important for this event to be placed in history because it is one of the past activities that led to the existence of our new dispensation. It all started because Pondo people striked the way that we did. … a commission was set up led by Mr. Abraham coming from Pretoria, concerned as ... We are desperately anxious that people will see that we do want for them to get something material, tangible. But I have to keep saying there is no way in which you could ever compensate anyone adequately for pain suffered by being tortured, for anguish experienced because a loved one was killed. ... There was the parallel of the divine mandate that was given to you, that you believed you had, in order to implement actions and programmes and projects which could maim, gas, kill people without any compulsion of conscience. We had the same one. |
