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people's warExplanation ... in his evidence. He didn’t tell us about the train violence, the Boipatong massacre or his role in the Shell House killings. De Kock said his war never included women, children and innocent civilians. He did not talk about Jackie Quinn, a civilian with no links to any political parties, ... Jacques Hechter of the Northern Transvaal security branch said then that he did not know the ins and outs of the assassination plan, but this week things started becoming a little clearer. The killing of Fabian and Florence Ribeiro here in Mamelodi was in fact part of the broader cooperation plan ... The security system of the then National Party government infiltrated our communities and during the infiltration you cannot really say that this is not a comrade and this is not a member of the ANC or SAYCO for that matter. What you see, you see members of the ANC and through their actions and ... There was more to that, the existence of separate apartheid style newspapers necessitated the demarcation of news rooms on racial lines, even if it was not said so in words in practice it was there. The staffing of the segregated newsroom was also on racial lines and I’m speaking from experience ... Reverend Simon Farisani had some explanation for the support the Venda community gave to the liberation armies. // Many of them did operate in this area. It was hospitable, people accommodated them. There were few instances where they were reported to the security forces. But generally people ... Your evidence was that Col Snyman reported that there was discussion at the JMC in which the Defence Force people put in the JMC, put the security police under pressure and suggested that the security police were unable to stabilize the position. Do you recall that? // Yes. // Now ... of this ... There was the parallel of the divine mandate that was given to you, that you believed you had, in order to implement actions and programmes and projects which could maim, gas, kill people without any compulsion of conscience. We had the same one. ... 1985 Benedict was 12 years old. // I saw my father coming back from work, when I looked around the township I heard the toyi-toyi sound. I ran towards him to meet him, to advise him not to get into the township. And he said no they won’t do anything to me, because there’s nothing I’ve ... And the ‘them and us’ philosophy will never work for this country and there has been very, very little reconciliation on the part of white people in this country, they don’t want to sacrifice, they don’t want to atone and they shift the blame, they don’t want to take responsibility for ... Let’s turn our attention to something else now. Before we go to the heartbreaking story of the people who lost their heritage, we continue our series of short profiles on the people who make the Truth Commission process happen. Tonight we look at Deputy Chairperson Alex Boraine. Reliving the past was traumatic for most witnesses, but throughout the week there was a comforting hand to help them through the pain. // Mafu, we’ve been seeing you all week sitting in this chair with your hand on somebody’s shoulder. What was your role here in East London? // Max, I’ve been ... As a result of the way in which the South African police were utilized in Zimbabwe and Namibia, where they were actually used as ordinary soldiers. They hunted people, tried to kill them and eliminate them. Then these members of the South African Police came back to the Republic and were then ... There was a day in November that you were telling the Commission that an assault took place on Lolo Sono. Correct? // Yes. // Who were the people that participated in the assault? // It was Mrs. Mandela and Richardson and others. // Which particular person inflicted an injury to Mr. Sono and how ... ... but it looks like they’re still dodging some questions and not being able to tell the full story. // People must begin to see change, to move towards reconciliation otherwise you have a kind of talk that is something like this. In the office, yes we’re a rainbow nation and in the taverns ... ... perpetrators, come and they paste yet another picture of the history of South Africa. Sometimes they paste it with their tears, but it is a very rewarding, a very humbling experience to be there, to sit, to listen, to look, to be part of the process. If you look at the thousands of victims who ... That was a rubbish place, I want to tell you. Because mostly people who had been taken there, having a queue and you go naked, without trousers, sometimes they check you how you’re healthy and so forth. But that is another worse story, because you have to queue two to three lines, until your ... And we had to look at the method where we can specifically look at these people of aggressive behaviour, of escapees … and sort of put them in a programme for a period of three months after which we evaluate them, we talk to them to see that they are prepared to be let into the mainstream prison ... ... use of the wet-bag method during interrogation. After the first incident during which Jacobs was subjected to the method by Benzien I was however aware of his modus operandi. As set out above, his unconventional actions had brought about the result which our unit was actually striving for and I ... I haven’t even reached 12 yet. I wasn’t even in standard five yet. That’s when I became wanted by these people who call themselves the justice system, but we all know that they were the injustice system. In 1987 nearly the whole organisation I represent here today was arrested. I was still on ... In the months before Sam Ntuli’s assassination the violence in Tokoza had died down. On the day of his funeral all hell broke loose again. // Because those people from … immediately when we passed the hostel they said when you come back we are going to kill all of you. We are going to kill all ... |
