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people's warExplanation ... We should rather have stayed at home. Things would have gone better. It served no purpose. It was a waste. As far as I’m concerned the whole bush war in South West was also a waste of money and lives. They might as well have called a general election in 1948. What was the purpose? ... I haven’t even reached 12 yet. I wasn’t even in standard five yet. That’s when I became wanted by these people who call themselves the justice system, but we all know that they were the injustice system. In 1987 nearly the whole organisation I represent here today was arrested. I was still on ... In Jo’burg it was worse because mostly people that was arrested, anyhow, anytime. Tress passers get in their houses, hotels, the police go inside of the houses or the flats, they search all these people. They want to know, where do you sleep, where do you come from, who’s your boss, what are ... She was untouchable. // Mrs. Mandela was not the kind of person whom you visited upon a brainwave and upset her whole household and see if I could arrest her, that would have meant the end of my career at that stage. // I always reached the conclusion that the people were afraid of her. // She is a ... The year is 1993. South Africa was on the eve of a remarkable negotiated settlement. One area was clinging steadfastly to the old order, Lucas Mangope’s homeland of Bophuthatswana. The people of the homeland mobilized for their freedom but Mangope’s security forces did not let go easily. At the ... ‘On Interrogation…’ // I had two sort of major sets of interrogation. The first was the old statue one, draw a line and Swanepoel sat there with the various other people and said ‘Jy gaan praat’ [You will talk] and you know you stand there until you talk. And within, I think maybe it ... We found the fire arms, the two fire arms. There were three, including ours. We also took clothing and we took old coins. // The car was to be sold in Lesotho so that the money that we get from that should be used to buy arms in order to further the struggle for APLA. // So, the money remained with ... The evil that people may not have known about is the actual killings and torture, the criminal operations; I mean, I think anybody who’s lived through South Africa in that time must have had some word or rumour of that but you could probably, genuinely have lived through the period and not been ... The people of Bongulethu and Bridgton this week took big steps towards the future as they saw it. They laid down their ideas about rehabilitation for a past of desperate conflict and oppression and they’d laid the symbolic cornerstone for a unified future. Now the question remains of whether ... Nothing came of the thousands of right wingers, only a handful turned up. // This is my flag. Nobody, Mandela to the grassroots people, will take it away. It’s my flag, it will stay with me. // Do you support PW Botha? // Too much. Let them touch him then they’ll see who the real Afrikaner is, ... You know when you heard it you thought it was absolutely impossible, here she was ready to come home in two days and of all the times she’s been in and out of Africa the last four or five years that this happened. And I think, you know, we were totally devastated… // What Linda says is true. If ... We drove through Bronkhorstspruit. We drove past the business centre to see whether there were any people around. There were no people around, so we drove past and planted the bomb. Mr Biko was on the one end and in the process of the shuffle he fell and the others fell on top of him. He was then pushed towards the wall. // You were referring to the wall and where the people fell, could you explain from there onwards what occurred? // An effort was then made to shackle Mr Biko ... I want to ask of you, in your application for amnesty you are asking the survivors and the next of kin or families for forgiveness, but thus far you have shown no remorse whatsoever to give us some sort of comfort. You have shown us nothing. You have only spoken of the orders and the killings that ... ... use of the wet-bag method during interrogation. After the first incident during which Jacobs was subjected to the method by Benzien I was however aware of his modus operandi. As set out above, his unconventional actions had brought about the result which our unit was actually striving for and I ... And we had to look at the method where we can specifically look at these people of aggressive behaviour, of escapees … and sort of put them in a programme for a period of three months after which we evaluate them, we talk to them to see that they are prepared to be let into the mainstream prison ... It was, as I said, a very very unpleasant event in my life and I would not have been able to put them through unnecessary physical pain. // These people were high-profile people; they were learned people. They were politically active and they had no fear of the security branch, neither did they ... Jacques Hechter of the Northern Transvaal security branch said then that he did not know the ins and outs of the assassination plan, but this week things started becoming a little clearer. The killing of Fabian and Florence Ribeiro here in Mamelodi was in fact part of the broader cooperation plan ... There was more to that, the existence of separate apartheid style newspapers necessitated the demarcation of news rooms on racial lines, even if it was not said so in words in practice it was there. The staffing of the segregated newsroom was also on racial lines and I’m speaking from experience ... Falati also claimed that she was told where the bodies are of some of the other children who disappeared. // Is it correct that you accompanied John Morgan to a certain place where certain pointings out were made? // And he told me that there’s a plantation and there was this mineshaft and Lolo ... |
