AK47

MR DE KOCK: Mr Chairperson, yes, I also gave the instructions or permission that they had to add a few AK47 magazines and that this must be left at the scene.

"Explosives experts found this at the scene. Limpet mines and handgrenades, detonators as well as 4 empty AK47 magazines."

MR JONKER: So Sir, if you drive with your police car down the road and you were still in the Police Force and there's a man walking down the road with an AK47 and you arrest him, would that be an action?

... Just to finally close on this point, as we heard from previous Amnesty Hearings, there were incidents where the information was that let's say AK47 weapons were involved, but that Murder and Robbery were not investigated but then the Security Branch will take over the investigation and be ...

... But didn't that even jeopardise the safety and the lives of your operatives if Opperman knew that there was going to be ten MK members armed with AK47 rifles, F1 hand-grenades, whatever it might be? He doesn't tell you, he says "Cloete, get these people ready to penetrate the house, you're ...

MR KAHANOVITZ: He said that he returned to the cottage that he'd hired on a particular day thereafter and he found a parcel that had been left there for him, containing an AK47 and two magazines, this was on the 11th of September, 1989, the day before Adv Lubowski's assassination.

Three days later I read Die Beeld and then I saw Jan Shoba was killed in Atteridgeville in a drive-by shooting, I think it was an AK47, and just after I read it, because I thought here I'm sitting the documents and this was a burning issue then and now suddenly this person is killed, I read his ...

MR LAMEY: Very well. Your version - you have also given a version as to how Brian Ngqulunga was eventually shot with an AK47, through his body and head. Is this as it was conveyed to you afterwards?

I abided by his decision. Just to say I had an AK47 in the car, and I had a modified bayonet which I took with me to clubs and places like that. It was actually a murder weapon, I had it on me. He totally discouraged me to do anything other than the monitoring and I abided by that.

"A reliable source, during the first week of December 1985, saw an unknown number of AK47 rifles and an unknown number of round objects, supposedly landmines in the possession of an ANC terrorist. The terrorist indicated that he and three cohorts, by Christmas of 1985, would go to Bloemfontein to ...

depart from the point that I would approach that truck driver because I linked the mandrax smugglers with that man. If he told me that he wanted an AK47 or whatever, I would see to it that he would get whatever it is that he wants. I knew that it would be for an illegal reason, but I would make ...

MR MPUNGOSE: I was staying with a young man whose name was Zweli Mkunu. He was originally from Lamontville and there was this other young man who would be there sleeping with me in the room who would have his AK47 all the time.

... there was this - he calls this person, he doesn't know his name but a young boy of about 18 and 20 years who was constantly on his side with an AK47 and he was starved for sixteen days. I mean in contrast to the picture you're trying to paint of him having been well ...

... - the conditions under which he worked were not nice and he disappeared, but he told Sgt Selai about the girlfriend that he had in exile, he had an AK47 that he left outside the country. Mr Selai explained all this to me, I did not know him, but he was telling me about ...

"... under the mattress of the bed, towards the inside of the wall, there was an AK47 storm gun wrapped in a plastic bag. In a black briefcase, there was a .375 Magnum Taurus revolver and a 9mm 39 pistol. I also found a Transkeian passport in the room, containing the photo of the suspect, with ...

MR DE KOCK: Yes, there was an official remuneration scale, amongst others. An AK47 for example, if that was found, then the ...(indistinct) or person who pointed it out was R600, a hand grenade was R299 I think and then there were various scales for ammunition and for rocket launchers and so forth.

"A usually reliable source during the first week of December 1985, saw an unknown number of AK47 guns and unidentified round metal objects (reputedly landmines) in the possession of a known ANC terrorist in Lesotho. The terrorist made it appear that he and three other cohorts would go to Kimberley ...

On the following day we went to see someone by the name of Kaili Hlembatha. He then told us that he couldn't give us an AK47, but he would be able to assist us by giving us a 303. He didn't give this to us on the same day. We went back to the place or the house where we arrived.

... also information that an informer of the Security Branch at Ladybrand had told them that he had seen an arms cache in Lesotho, and he referred to AK47 assault rifles and round objects and there was an inference drawn that they may have been landmines, because what was obviously in the minds of ...

We started opening our AK47 fire, that was for the first time the Mangope regime had an experience of an AK47. It also used to resonate right down in Pretoria and they would not know how we came in, which route we used, and they would quarrel with Mangope over our entry point.