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Operation Zero ZeroExplanation What is the problem with your health? --- I have asthma and operation. I was operated because I was sick. election campaign that I endured a lot of stress to the point where I actually suffered a heart-attack, and in 1990 I had to undergo a heart by-pass operation. The result of that election is now history today, and I realised that the political dispensation in this country had changed irrevocably; ... MR KOOPEDI: Okay, now do you know if anyone was injured in this operation, injured or killed? MR S J VISSER: That is not correct, Chairperson, this was money which was used by the Security Branch in order to pay him for his continued co-operation with the Security Branch. MR NEL: Paragraph 14, Mr Hanton, you deal with the incident in question, where you received instructions from Col de Kock regarding what you had to do, and you say there that you believed that the authority to take part in the operation, emanated from higher authority. ... in our office. Van Jaarsveld was present in the bus while we were waiting for Mamasela to lure this security guard to the bus. This whole operation and the interrogation in the Warmbad environment was under instruction of Van Jaarsveld and also he participated in the assault and he was ... ... herein and are satisfied that the Applicants have complied with the requirements of the Act. It is quite clear that they intended to carry out an operation against members of a liberation movement, the ANC, which was in conflict with the erstwhile regime. We also accept that they have given a ... MR VISSER: Alright. Would that be a fund or a payment when an MK cadre was going to start a new operation? MR NKUNA: It is not me who said he shall be attacked, but Soli suggested it because they were at Joe's house and they were there to see that that kind of an operation is being undertaken to attack an informer or a traitor. ... something had to be done. The decision to eliminate Mangane was then taken, with the further approval of the late Chris Hani to whom the Swaziland operation was directly ... The only specific offence referred to in her application relates to her being involved in the transfer of arms that were under the general control of Operation Vula to dead letter boxes, DLBs, in some of the areas which were worst hit by political violence including the Vaal Triangle and the ... MR MPSHE: Now further on in your evidence again you refer to Hani and you say Hani was trying to get rid of Nelson Mandela. I refer here to Operation Vula, you recall that? MR PIGOU: Did you not find it strange Father Mkhatswa that you were engaged in such an operation? I mean I personally find it very peculiar that to find out something what is essentially very simple and straightforward whether someone is being held against their will or whether they are being ... MR DU PLESSIS: And your viewpoints were also in this operation that you were under the overhead command of Col de Kock, is that correct? MR VISSER: Alright. Would that be a fund or a payment when an MK cadre was going to start a new operation? ... what I did say I delegated my powers, I mean you don't expect the Commissioner to go and sit there and really go into detailed arrangements for an operation like that. And as I have explained Brigadier Ngcobo and Major Simms they were the two people in charge down there, but I went there as ... ... Musi and them but listen then, make a plan, you know, show, you know, draw a sketch plan of their houses etc., you know, one doesn't embark on an operation like this without a sketch plan. Or it could be that Musi had said, look these are our plans, we've got a sketch plan. But the point is ... MR WESSELS: And you then, indeed, at the second opportunity comprised the operation or the organisation. MR LAMEY: Because nobody mentioned Mr Willemse's name here actually and if Mr Willemse on the basis that he went along with you to visit Mr Radebe, then Mr Willemse would have known about the actual operation. "That's correct, but the operation started after the conversation with Col van Rensburg." |
