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people's warExplanation She lives with the memory of her grandson, with the pain she still sees in the eyes of those he left behind and with the words he wanted them to remember him by. // ‘I hurt so I can’t cry anymore. It’s driving me insane. God help me. Come down and speak my pain into people I love. Tell them ... Were the infiltrators armed? // Definitely. Both groups, as you know it was two incidents, two separate incidents. Both groups were armed. // No there were no firearms on them. There was absolutely no firearms found on these people and nothing were handed to me. The Bonteheuwel Military Wing started precisely because we needed to respond to the manner in which the state operated. We needed to one, defend ourselves, defend our community, because it appeared as if our community were under siege. We had a situation where there were, police put patrols – and ... The man they all blamed, Brig Fanie Gilbert, is now deceased. // After all these facts were placed before him, did Brigadier Gilbert tell you to eliminate these people? // That is so Your Honour. // You told me that the second sentence here should read. ‘He then suggested that this operation be ... Mr. Chairman and members of the Commission. You have heard many stories of astonishing things. You have heard stories of people who hurt others without batting an eyelid. You have crept into the hearts of wounded and sometimes damaged people. My story and that of my children is small in comparison ... ... change our mind about that. The catharsis that has taken place for white and black alike, men and women, old, young, seems to have done something towards the reconciling work that we are committed to. But I think you’re absolutely right, I think we’re being very slow on the whole question of ... The type of warder who was in charge of us while we were in jail. I mean, there were people, you heard some of the stories he told about the distorted kind of humour which they had and how easy it was for them to resort to brutalities. Now these are human beings, these are people like you and me; ... The CCB was a good organisation. It did fantastic work. It penetrated the inner circles of the ANC. We prevented a black Christmas in South Africa. We prevented ANC people from coming in and planting bombs and maiming people. Remember they always acted against the civilian sector. And now we have ... Derby-Lewis provided Janusz Walus with a pistol needed for the assassination. // Well the whole objective was to plunge the country into a situation where as a result of the chaos which we anticipated would occur as a result of the assassination that people on the right would be inspired to ... And the question then is, is the political authority not primarily responsible then. // I agree with you. Perhaps I should refer to my amnesty application. I can only agree with you, that it’s not only against the policemen, but also against the people who gave him his instructions and who ... It was very difficult to get into Trust Feed after 1988, when from detention I came to live in Pietermaritzburg as a displacee. Other people could go, I couldn’t go. I couldn’t go because Gabela and Nxumalo did not want me there. They believed that if I came back then the UDF will thrive once ... I was born in Boksburg, but have no memory of it, we moved to Pretoria when I was eighteen months old. My father is a Presbyterian minister, so I was brought up in a religious, spiritual household and although I am not a practicing Christian now I have a very strong sense of right and wrong and ... In fact there were far more members of the South African and international media than supporters of Botha. // Only a few friends and supporters of Botha, six media people and some ANC representatives were allowed inside the court where Botha had to face Magistrate Victor Lugaju, president of the ... Wouter Mentz was a Vlakplaas policeman who had killed several people including one of his own colleagues and two deaf children in a Botswana raid. // I didn’t know that there were children, and if I recall they were two deaf-numb children. That was evil in killing them, because they caused no ... ... way of coming to terms with the past, but so many more white people in general and Afrikaners in particular have been openly hostile and critical towards the Truth Commission. One only has to read the Rapport on Sundays to realize how deep this resentment lies amongst Afrikaners. Now, many South ... The name Sophiatown has become much more than a symbol of the forced removal of black people by the apartheid government. It was a magic moment in the history of the people of South Africa, a moment holding the promise of what South Africa could have been. The one overwhelming problem that I have about this hearing is that there seems to be … I mean, either there’s a conspiracy theory or even a conspiracy directed against you by a wide range of people, not only the youngsters that came here and Mr. Morgan and the whole succession of people, ... We had indeed taught our people wrongly with regard to apartheid as a biblical instruction. If you teach them that this is the way of the Bible, in fact you instruct them how they should act and in this regard certainly the church has confessed that it is guilty and we are experiencing an inner ... Mister Mlambo was correct. This is what PAC central committee leader Barney Desai said in reaction to the St James Massacre. // We think that this is the work of the third force, operating in this country to destabilize the transition to democracy. We are busy discussing the constitution here and ... ... violent struggle. Mr. Biko was on the one end and in the process of the shuffle he fell, and the others fell on top of him. He was then pushed towards the wall. // You were referring to the wall and where the people fell. Could you explain from there onwards what occurred? // An effort was ... |
