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people's warExplanation Early one morning, on the 4th of August 1983 Ciskei forces opened fire on commuters on their way to work, the reason being they had opted for trains and not use the government owned buses at the time. At the last human rights violations hearing in Mdansane, Eastern Cape the Commission heard how ... It was a very emotional moment, personally. Because I felt the pain that the victims felt and of which I do regret the loss of lives. And moreover in the position in which I saw them. Hoping that this message will be related to the victims and to other people who suffered the struggle. Especially ... Although the ‘Handelsinstituut’ was one of those to criticize the wealth tax, they were the only ones to come with some kind of alternative. They suggest that the old South African Security Risk Insurance Fund, which was used to insure people against political violence in the past, be used for ... I don’t know, I told you just now I don’t know nothing about it. The first I know about it is when these people, a month ago, two months … two months ago they were on the farm and they asked permission to come and have a look if there are new graves, or whatever. That’s all. It was a fluent kind of living, vibrant community and I think longing for the kind of freedom that hopefully we’re getting into now, that’s what made it such a magical place and I think it will always hold a place in the imaginations of the people that lived through it and maybe those who ... In dealing with the unconventional strategies from the side of the government, I want to make it clear from the outset that within my knowledge and experience they never included the authorisation of assassination, murder, torture, rape, assault or the like. // Where does political accountability ... There’s the one question of extradition, and I think that the chair person is absolutely right, we start with our own minister he will then say to us, well we haven’t been asked. So, then we will go back to Namibia and say, well, why haven’t you asked? But, there is a second point and that ... I would like the people who are in prison to be released because it is not their offence. They weren’t responsible. When we got there, the petitions were handed over, the first petition, the second petition, and the third petition. When it was time to hand over the third petition then there was a ... How did you think by killing these four gentlemen it would serve the interest of the Republic of South Africa? // Along with the instruction that I received Mr Chairman I was convinced at the time the elimination of these people would bring about stability in the area. It was not my decision but I ... I was a member of the Afrikaner Broederbond from 1940 until 1963 and I’ve got to be in all fairness and honesty, I’ve got to say I regarded it as a tremendous privilege, I regarded it as, yes let me say ‘a calling of God,’ a mission to promote the cause of the Afrikaner people. Numsa Tshabalala says her son Sibuniso disappeared shortly after Lolo Sono. // Then he said, if you say Lolo was taken by Winnie Madikizela’s people then probably I will be taken there as well. And we left for work, when we came back Sibuniso was not at home. When Sibuniso had gone, that is after ... Although she denies all knowledge of the assassination plan Derby-Lewis told the Amnesty Committee that she believed it was politically inspired. This is what she told the police during her interrogation in 1993. // We had minimal contact with the right in terms of being involved with them. I ... ... some of PW’s memorabilia, anything of PW in that Museum, it needs to be contextualized. For instance, if you walk into that Museum, he’s got awards from the president of Chili and Savimbi, an AK47. You know, it is totally ridiculous. What we need to say is who are these leaders that gave ... When they see, even at a bus stop, when they see black people in a queue, they quickly surround them; arrest them, those who have got no passes. Everywhere! Even going to church, on Sunday, going to church, they stop them from going to church. They ask your pass. If you leave your pass you are ... ... is serving a long term of imprisonment and it is I think in our opinion very important that he should be represented so that his case can be put forward as best as it ought to be. A number of the applicants might not be particularly well educated people, might not be sufficiently sophisticated in ... The movement for reconciliation is growing in our church on ground level. The church also continually and with empathy focused on the large numbers of people who were unjustly disadvantaged during the times of apartheid and to assist them in their poverty and suffering. A lack of understanding and ... Most probably first impression is not that good, but in all honesty if I can explain to you, 750 obviously for the motorcar and CCB being Carl Casteling Botha, which is my Christian name. // You don’t think this might be a bit offensive in the new South Africa? // Mam that wasn’t my intention, ... Alright, we only have five minutes left and I want to address the whole concept of reconciliation now. Maki Mandela, let’s look at what has happened in the Truth Commission in terms of reconciliation and what lies ahead. Your views. Where are we now in terms of reconciliation? Are we stuck in a ... Two people came to the house. Mr Mandela told me to show them the house of Dr Asvat. We went to Rockville and I showed them the house. Gideon Niewoudt is now on trial in the Port Elizabeth Supreme Court for murder. // The Motherwell bombing case: the state alleges that he was involved in the murder of other policemen. // At an inquest in 1993 into the murder of four other Eastern Cape activists, Niewoudt once again denied that he ... |