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people's warExplanation We knew that they had need of transport and we knew that they were 6 and that they were armed. With the result that we saw our duty as getting to them before they escaped us. So it would have been a risk from a security point of view to let these people enter and to later get hold of them. And we ... I was nearly hanged for something I didn’t do, I didn’t know anything about. I asked myself that how many people have been hanged who are innocent. Even today I’m not able to believe that I was in death row. // Duma Khumalo was granted a stay of execution 24 hours before he was to be hanged. South Africa’s political parties made submissions to the Truth Commission in August last year. Most parties promised to give further information at a later stage and promised to respond to any questions coming from the Truth Commission. Last Sunday, the leader of the National Party, FW de Klerk ... I agree with him, if we could have positive ways of doing it like Mandela walking out of jail which is taking us a step further instead of going backwards, because, yes we have to live with our past but if we’re going that backward we’re going nowhere. // It is a statement by the nation to ... I believe a person who killed so cold-bloodedly, I believe something must be done about him because it’s innocent people, innocent people in the street. He didn’t care who they were. Commissioner Johan van der Merwe also told the Truth Commission that the 1988 order to bomb Khotso House in Johannesburg originated in the state president’s office. // In 1988 the headquarters of the South African Council of Churches in Johannesburg was bombed. 18 people were injured and the ... I think it was Cecil Msotho who I saw first and he described the tail end of the shootout in which opposite the dormitory we were in, under a gum tree, police had walked up to a guy, to one of the people they had shot, and had in fact fired a bullet into him while he was prostrate on the ground. ... leg and truth first as always. Are we really, have we really been getting to the truth in this process? // First of all congratulations on your award. We have certainly done that. We’ve heard the stories of victims and survivors. We were worried that we were not in fact getting the accounts ... ‘Good evening. A woman was killed in one of two bomb explosions on the East Rand today. She died in the Johannesburg Hospital a short while ago. At least 57 people were injured in the explosions believed to have been caused by limpet mines. One blast took place in a packed restaurant in the ... This is the Vaal Triangle, home of Eskom, Sasol and many other big industries. Also home to millions of people who work at these industries and their families. They live in grim townships such as Sebokeng, Sharpeville, Bophelong and Boipatong. For some, mostly men from KwaZulu-Natal, this is only a ... The women always come there talking about what happened to their sons, to their husbands. They hardly tell us about what has happened and yet when you probe deeper you also find that they also experienced violations and some of them more terrible than some of the people they have come to talk ... Now so many things have been taken away from the oppressed people. Number one, land, it was just taken away and they became landless, their stock was taken away and all their possessions were taken away, even their self respect was taken away. So those people therefore that took that away, they ... The intention was not to kill him brutally, it was to make the whole thing appear … it was to simulate robbery, but unfortunately on the scene of crime certain things develop that you don’t expect. Mxenge’s physical strength was undermined, but when he was stabbed, he stood up and he fought. ... Myself with my axe, I’d say after the others had fired and had run out of bullets, Michael in particular Rooivark. Some people were still moving; that is the ones that were shot. Ntjebo then instructed that we should finish them off and I hit the ones who were still moving. I was only ... Alright, you want to go back to… // No simply I think the George Bizos example’s good, also for the Biko killers. We heard these probing questions and unlike the original so-called inquest where half the stuff couldn’t be brought out, at least the public… and I take Herman’s point that it ... I tend to block it out. I talk about it at the hearing. I go home, the normality of a family life, the fact that I still have to be a mother, a wife, helps me to deal with the fact that I am not a super human being, I’m an ordinary person. But I don’t sleep very well, so I’ll read till the ... Is it correct that the people that beat Stompie were Mrs. Mandela, Katiza, Slash and yourself? // Yes, but there are others. Everybody who was there participated as well as the other members of the Mandela United Football Club. The TRC is the only forum with some credibility and acceptability available to us in which we can publicly apologise to all those who had been hurt by the travesties of the past. It is the most effective way available to us which we can use to offer help and healing to those who had committed ... I think with Magoo’s, you know we had a certain philosophy – after every activity that we did, after every action we would tell ourselves that it never happened, it was just a nightmare – it never happened. And you would sort of conscientise yourself to deaden that memory. It was a horrible ... One small question, when you accept I think moral responsibility, what does that mean? // As I understand it I can’t run away from those occasions where somebody as a result of my action and as a result of misunderstanding my words, committed an offense. I am morally obliged to stand by him and ... |
